[Jamie89]

I've just got a couple of questions about chat threads. I'm just wondering why they get closed basically? And if they get closed, when are new ones made? And if anyone can make them and if you need to get permission first? Just the general rules of them I suppose, I couldn't find anything in the FAQ section. (I'm not talking specifically about last nights chat thread that got closed btw, I'm just curious to know the rules in general)

[Will.]

It's all rather confusing tbh

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Will1999

It's all rather confusing tbh

Oh good it's not just me It would just be nice to know is all, I saw a new chat thread before and thought 'oh yay, that's good' lol, but then I saw it had been closed too. I'm just curious more than anything

[Niamh.]

last night the chat thread got closed because of arguing, in that case people are not permitted to start up a new one.

Normally generally speaking they get closed when a mod thinks they're big enough could be anywhere between 3000-5000 posts really. When it's decided to close the thread, those posting in the Chat thread usually decide amongst themselves who will start the new one and it's started pretty much as soon as the old one is closed

The reason they get closed when they get too big is that bigger threads can slow the forum a bit I think

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

last night the chat thread got closed because of arguing, in that case people are not permitted to start up a new one.

Normally generally speaking they get closed when a mod thinks they're big enough could be anywhere between 3000-5000 posts really. When it's decided to close the thread, those posting in the Chat thread usually decide amongst themselves who will start the new one and it's started pretty much as soon as the old one is closed

The reason they get closed when they get too big is that bigger threads can slow the forum a bit I think

Ok that's good to know, thanks Niamh. You know if they're closed because of arguing though, and we can't set up a new one... when do new ones get set up after that, and is it only mods/staff that are able to do it?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Ok that's good to know, thanks Niamh. You know if they're closed because of arguing though, and we can't set up a new one... when do new ones get set up after that, and is it only mods/staff that are able to do it?

A new one gets started when the mod who closed the original one decides. In that case they may just open the old one

[gamepodfan]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

last night the chat thread got closed because of arguing, in that case people are not permitted to start up a new one.

Normally generally speaking they get closed when a mod thinks they're big enough could be anywhere between 3000-5000 posts really. When it's decided to close the thread, those posting in the Chat thread usually decide amongst themselves who will start the new one and it's started pretty much as soon as the old one is closed

The reason they get closed when they get too big is that bigger threads can slow the forum a bit I think

oh i did not know that

[Will.]

Niamh kindly explained to me some of it on VM today after my chat thread got closed.

I sort of get it but at the same still a little confused.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Will1999

Niamh kindly explained to me some of it on VM today after my chat thread got closed.

I sort of get it but at the same still a little confused.

What exactly is confusing you Will?

[Will.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What exactly is confusing you Will?

The whole when you can open one.

So if a new one can be made, the mods will post in a previous chat thread saying they we can make one?

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

A new one gets started when the mod who closed the original one decides. In that case they may just open the old one

Ok thanks

Originally Posted by Will1999

The whole when you can open one.

So if a new one can be made, the mods will post in a previous chat thread saying they we can make one?

I think what Niamh's saying is that if they're closed for arguing then it's the mods discretion and we can't intervene, we can only start our own if they're closed due to the length of them.

[Will.]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Ok thanks



I think what Niamh's saying is that if they're closed for arguing then it's the mods discretion and we can't intervene, we can only start our own if they're closed due to the length of them.

Yeah that's what confused me,

I thought the cabin was closed because of the length, I didn't realise it was arguing as I only looked at the last 2 pages.

And I thought that if it was closed because of arguing a mod would have wrote at the end of the thread.

But then Josy commented like 4 pages behind.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Will1999

The whole when you can open one.

So if a new one can be made, the mods will post in a previous chat thread saying they we can make one?

You'll be told when you can make one, it's not that hard to follow really

[Jamie89]

Actually, just another question sorry Niamh. You know if there is arguing in the chat thread (which hardly ever happens lol ) could you not just give warnings or infractions to the people arguing instead of closing the chat thread for everyone?

[Josy]

I closed the chat threads last night because I clearly posted in the thread that if it ended up closed it's not getting reopened, the arguments and reports from there continued so it's closed.

Its the same people that ruin it for everyone constantly.

[Will.]

Originally Posted by Josy

I closed the chat threads last night because I clearly posted in the thread that if it ended up closed it's not getting reopened, the arguments and reports from there continued so it's closed.

Its the same people that ruin it for everyone constantly.

Yeah,

See I looked at the last page and there wasn't any arguing, I wasn't present on the chat thread when Jason and Adam were arguing.

And I didn't see your comment lol until Niamh said you posted like 4 pages behind

If I had red the previous pages then I wouldn't have made a new chat thread.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Josy

I closed the chat threads last night because I clearly posted in the thread that if it ended up closed it's not getting reopened, the arguments and reports from there continued so it's closed.

Its the same people that ruin it for everyone constantly.

I understand, I noticed you'd posted that last night. I was asking more generally really though about the rules because like I say I couldn't find any info on it and was just curious. Would it not be an idea though, if it's just certain people who are ruining it, to give out warnings instead? And then the threads can stay open for everyone else?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

I understand, I noticed you'd posted that last night. I was asking more generally really though about the rules because like I say I couldn't find any info on it and was just curious. Would it not be an idea though, if it's just certain people who are ruining it, to give out warnings instead? And then the threads can stay open for everyone else?

No because warnings and infractions are being ignored too much and arguing continues between different members when the others get banned.

We wont spend all of our time dealing with rule breaks and petty arguing between members in there constantly, so until members are able to use those threads without arguments, cliques and thinking they have the right to dictate who is allowed to post in them and who isn't then that specific one will remained closed.

The other one will be reopened at some point.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Josy

No because warnings and infractions are being ignored too much and arguing continues between different members when the others get banned.

We wont spend all of our time dealing with rule breaks and petty arguing between members in there constantly, so until members are able to use those threads without arguments, cliques and thinking they have the right to dictate who is allowed to post in them and who isn't then that specific one will remained closed.

The other one will be reopened at some point.

Ok that's fair enough, thanks. I wasn't trying to be awkward or anything. Just trying to get a handle on the way it works is all.

Maybe we should have an argument thread called 'outside', so if tension builds, people can 'take it outside'. Ok, that was a bad joke obvs *groan*

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Ok that's fair enough, thanks. I wasn't trying to be awkward or anything. Just trying to get a handle on the way it works is all.

Maybe we should have an argument thread called 'outside', so if tension builds, people can 'take it outside'. Ok, that was a bad joke obvs *groan*

..u wanna take this outside m8..eh, eh...

[Jay.]

Originally Posted by Josy

I closed the chat threads last night because I clearly posted in the thread that if it ended up closed it's not getting reopened, the arguments and reports from there continued so it's closed.

Its the same people that ruin it for everyone constantly.

can we not just stop them posting in that thread possibly? like banning people from posting in specific sub-forums for a bit to cool them down? it's ruining it for the mass at the moment

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Jay.

can we not just stop them posting in that thread possibly? like banning people from posting in specific sub-forums for a bit to cool them down? it's ruining it for the mass at the moment

That would be a good idea actually if it's possible. Sometimes things get a bit heated and people say things in the moment, which fair enough maybe they shouldn't, but it's just what happens sometimes. It would save the mods banning people and keep the chat open for everyone else so win/win?

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..corrupting chat while doing cable stich and crochet clique..

this is so me tbh

Originally Posted by Jay.

can we not just stop them posting in that thread possibly? like banning people from posting in specific sub-forums for a bit to cool them down? it's ruining it for the mass at the moment

Far be it from me to agree with Jay but he is absolutely right. I am tired of the excuse that the few spoil it for the many on here. The last few times the chat has been shut down, there are no new names added to the ban list, and we have no idea who was interacted or warned for their behaviour. There are 50 some odd people who have posted in the current chat thread, and about 40 of those are regular posters or viewers of it. I really don't see why all those people get punished for a night where two or three are arguing and the rest of us have no control or part of it.

I agree with greater weighted infractions or bans if that is the case. What is the purpose of the infraction system if 40 people receive punishment for the actions of 3-4.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Mokka

this is so me tbh



Far be it from me to agree with Jay but he is absolutely right. I am tired of the excuse that the few spoil it for the many on here. The last few times the chat has been shut down, there are no new names added to the ban list, and we have no idea who was interacted or warned for their behaviour. There are 50 some odd people who have posted in the current chat thread, and about 40 of those are regular posters or viewers of it. I really don't see why all those people get punished for a night where two or three are arguing and the rest of us have no control or part of it.

I agree with greater weighted infractions or bans if that is the case. What is the purpose of the infraction system if 40 people receive punishment for the actions of 3-4.

With the chat thread in question its more a case of the many ruining it for a few.

There was a name added to the ban list last night too but no one else needs to know who was warned or infracted for their behaviour that's between the members in question and the admins/mods.

That threads staying closed for the foreseeable future because it's constant in there between a large amount of the regular members, not just one or two.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Josy

I closed the chat threads last night because I clearly posted in the thread that if it ended up closed it's not getting reopened, the arguments and reports from there continued so it's closed.

Its the same people that ruin it for everyone constantly.

Originally Posted by Josy

With the chat thread in question its more a case of the many ruining it for a few.

There was a name added to the ban list last night too but no one else needs to know who was warned or infracted for their behaviour that's between the members in question and the admins/mods.

That threads staying closed for the foreseeable future because it's constant in there between a large amount of the regular members, not just one or two.

One name added doesn't account for the same people constantly, or even for the many ruining it for the few

I have no infractions for posting in there, although I have several accusations against me. I wasn't asking to know who was infracted, but I am asking for the people responsible to get proper punishment, and let the rest of us get on with it. It's actually a fun thread 90% of he time, and it wouldn't be so popular if it wasn't.