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Old 02-07-2019, 10:05 AM #1
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Default LGBT+ pay gap of 16% revealed despite corporate embrace of Pride



LGBT+ staff face pay discrimination in the UK, according to a new survey.

LinkedIn and UK Black Pride found that LGBT+ workers in the UK earn on average £6,703 less than straight colleagues.

The shortfall is equivalent to a pay gap of 16% — almost double the UK pay gap between men and women of 9.6%.

“Although we have seen progress in the workplace for LGBT+ people, it is clear that there are still substantial issues which can make it difficult for individuals to thrive professionally as their authentic selves,” Suki Sandhu OBE, CEO and founder of includisivity campaign group INvolve, said in a statement.

“LGBT+ people are at all levels of a business, whether they’re out or not, so it’s crucial to have inclusive environments.”

The research found the pay gap was slightly less for transgender staff but still stood at 14%, or £5,340 on average.

The data was based on a YouGov survey of 4,000 people who identified as being straight, gay, bisexual or other.

The research, released to coincide with Pride month, found that 65% of people believe their workplace is doing enough to support LGBT+ colleagues. However, 44% of transgender staff said that their employers should be doing more to promote inclusive workplaces.

“While a significant number of UK workers feel that their employer is supportive and inclusive of LGBT+ colleagues, our research shows there is still a long way to go,” Joshua Graff, UK Country Manager at LinkedIn, said in a statement.

“It is important that businesses build on the steps that many have already taken to create more inclusive environments – places where people can bring their true, authentic selves to work.”

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The UK gender pay gap is about 18%, women have been fighting for decades for this to be addressed. It's about time ALL pay inequality was addressed.
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The UK gender pay gap is about 18%, women have been fighting for decades for this to be addressed. It's about time ALL pay inequality was addressed.
'All lives matter!'
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The UK gender pay gap is about 18%, women have been fighting for decades for this to be addressed. It's about time ALL pay inequality was addressed.
And the pay gap for women has been, rightfully, reported on and discussed on the public platform for a while. No real need to jump in with some 'whataboutery' as though the gays are infringing on women's problems.
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And the pay gap for women has been, rightfully, reported on and discussed on the public platform for a while. No real need to jump in with some 'whataboutery' as though the gays are infringing on women's problems.
That's what you took from my post? Whataboutery? Then I apologise. My point is that there is no excuse for anyone to be paid less than someone else for the same job, whoever they are, whoever they love, whatever colour they are and whether they're male or female.
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How can two people doing the same job be paid differently?
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How can two people doing the same job be paid differently?
I'm not sure I get this either...say if I'm sitting on an assembly line and a gay man is sitting next to me...is this saying I get paid more than him because I'm straight?

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Much like the gender "pay gap", it's due to different career choices.
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Much like the gender "pay gap", it's due to different career choices.
Different career choices?

How is a man and a woman... doing the same job... but being paid differently... about DIFFERENT career choices?
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Different career choices?

How is a man and a woman... doing the same job... but being paid differently... about DIFFERENT career choices?
That doesn't happen.

The "pay gap" talks about average pay overall, it doesn't refer to differences in pay for the same job at the same company.
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That doesn't happen.
Omg, WORLD! OH WORLD! Oliver said it doesn't happen! Guys! PHEW!
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Omg, WORLD! OH WORLD! Oliver said it doesn't happen! Guys! PHEW!
And then I went on to explain why people who believe in the pay gap are mistaken
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Much like the gender "pay gap", it's due to different career choices.
i mean it literally isn't, the studies account for people in the same job and same position but believe what you want to believe ig!
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i mean it literally isn't, the studies account for people in the same job and same position but believe what you want to believe ig!
Different pay grades in the same job. That's a pretty widespread way of employers manipulating people's pay, there are usually pretty hazy criteria as to what grade you're on. Also people like women, gay people, trans people, black people are also often overlooked when it comes to promotion. It's pretty disgusting in 2019.
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Different pay grades in the same job. That's a pretty widespread way of employers manipulating people's pay, there are usually pretty hazy criteria as to what grade you're on. Also people like women, gay people, trans people, black people are also often overlooked when it comes to promotion. It's pretty disgusting in 2019.
Itd be enlightening to know how employers justify that to themselves
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Itd be enlightening to know how employers justify that to themselves
It would. I do believe things are changing, but it's soooo glacially slow.
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Its alright, we’ve already got everything we need apparently, who needs equal treatment when we don’t get chucked in prison for liking a bit of the cock anymore?
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Its alright, we’ve already got everything we need apparently, who needs equal treatment when we don’t get chucked in prison for liking a bit of the cock anymore?
I know
We should be grateful and shut up, not go lgbt this lgbt that
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I can't believe there's not a single woman in this world that is paid differently to a man with the same experience doing the same job

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Oliver you do realise you're posting the changes being made due to recent campaigning and public discussion of it?

That's not the same as "does not happen".
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To be honest if it wasn't for me earning so much I reckon it would be more that 20%.
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I don’t see how they can claim lgbt are earning 6k less than their colleagues when they only asked 4000 people tbh. Unless they asked people from the same company, which I doubt. They asked the first 4000 people that went on the YouGov website probs.

I’d be interested to read the original YouGov summary though if anybody cba to find it. I feel like this Yahoo article might’ve paraphrased the **** out of it tbh.
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