[The Slim Reaper]

Interesting series started on BBC last night, about the rise of the Nazi's into power and how a democracy can move into authoritarianism within a short period of time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...e-of-the-nazis

[arista]

Can a Good Mod please put
this thread in the TV Section

Or Admin , if they have time

[The Slim Reaper]

It's a topic for debate as well as to watch. A good mod will know it needs to stay where it is.


PS Hitler was a celebrity.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by arista

Can a Good Mod please put
this thread in the TV Section

Or Admin , if they have time

I think it's also a topic of debate, it can stay

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think it's also a topic of debate, it can stay

[arista]

Its a TV Series on BBC2HD

You are Wrong

[Nicky91]

i agree with Slim, since basically it can relate back to some of today's extreme far right groups

greeks golden dawn party are nazi's, they are out of parliament there but that isn't stopping them in their desire to expand globally, so they should still be watched carefully and be stopped from growing bigger, they are murderers, proof = anyone who is against them will be murdered by them, one greek rapper against the far right got shot dead by some of golden dawn's members

they want to expand globally, well these thugs you don't want in your country

so yeah i call their story also ''rise of the nazi's''

[Merry Mockmas]

It is interesting to see how much more right wing this country has become within a space of a few years.

I'm not saying that all right wing people are Nazi's obviously, but it does appear like a lot of people in Parliament and in society in general are trying to push the bounds of how extremely right wing they can go before hitting the Nazi category.

I honestly don't think all hope is lost yet though, I'm hoping that the right wing of this country (our leaders at the moment) will see sense and learn to become more moderate again, rather than trying to be like Trump, Putin, or worse... Hitler.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It is interesting to see how much more right wing this country has become within a space of a few years.

I'm not saying that all right wing people are Nazi's obviously, but it does appear like a lot of people in Parliament and in society in general are trying to push the bounds of how extremely right wing they can go before hitting the Nazi category.

I honestly don't think all hope is lost yet though, I'm hoping that the right wing of this country (our leaders at the moment) will see sense and learn to become more moderate again, rather than trying to be like Trump, Putin, or worse... Hitler.

I agree with pretty much all of that apart from the hope that the rw leaders will see sense. Unfortunately, the conservatives have put themselves in an extreme position, and their support (not all, but an increasing chunk) is actually dependent on that section, emboldening the far right even further.

There is a westminster rally on Sat by a far right football supporters group and they were advertising it on twitter earlier as showing their support for Boris and the queen.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I agree with pretty much all of that apart from the hope that the rw leaders will see sense. Unfortunately, the conservatives have put themselves in an extreme position, and their support (not all, but an increasing chunk) is actually dependent on that section, emboldening the far right even further.

There is a westminster rally on Sat by a far right football supporters group and they were advertising it on twitter earlier as showing their support for Boris and the queen.

Well if that's the case, then we have to hope that the general public will swing towards Labour and get the Conservatives out of office if they can't afford to do their jobs properly.

I know that Corbyn will be a problem for a lot of people though.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

There is a westminster rally on Sat by a far right football supporters group and they were advertising it on twitter earlier as showing their support for Boris and the queen.

How does supporting the Prime Minister and the Queen mean someone is "far right"? Boris isn't, and she's apolitical.

You might want to expand on this story.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

How does supporting the Prime Minister and the Queen mean someone is "far right"? Boris isn't, and she's apolitical.

You might want to expand on this story.

It doesn't, but the rally is organised by a far right football supporters group. You misunderstood what I meant; my opinion is that far right and right are becoming so inextricably linked that it's difficult to see daylight between them. When have you ever seen the far right promoting and supporting generic conservatives in the past? Now they are campaigning to support them.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

When have you ever seen the far right promoting and supporting generic conservatives in the past? Now they are campaigning to support them.

I don't know if they have, I ignore idiots like them when they're not being discussed.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

How does supporting the Prime Minister and the Queen mean someone is "far right"? Boris isn't, and she's apolitical.

You might want to expand on this story.

I think the group must have a far right history, more than the Tweet itself being far right.

Although I would call Boris a dictator after his move against Parliament. Going onto a separate issue of course.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I think the group must have a far right history, more than the Tweet itself being far right.

Although I would call Boris a dictator after his move against Parliament. Going onto a separate issue of course.

He is the PM/



This TV Series BBC2HD
is about EVIL HITLER
He was killing loads
no one could stop him at first.

Nothing to do with Parliament UK 2019

[Parmy]

Lol.

So what's the debate here? The programme or the rise of nazism in the 20's and 30s?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Lol.

So what's the debate here? The programme or the rise of nazism in the 20's and 30s?

"Trump is a literal nazi", or something...

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Lol.

So what's the debate here? The programme or the rise of nazism in the 20's and 30s?

It's not either or, parm. Maybe you could watch it later and let us know your thoughts?

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It's not either or, parm. Maybe you could watch it later and let us now your thoughts?

I watched it last night.

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Lol.

So what's the debate here? The programme or the rise of nazism in the 20's and 30s?

Yes a new BBC2HD history series
nothing to do with 2019

[Twosugars]

I think that now when most people who remembered the consequences of far right getting into power are dead theres a serious danger of repeating the whole thing.
The far right of today has the potential. And we see that some individuals are happy spouting nazi-like themes and narratives

[Tom4784]

Honestly, a lot of the rhetoric of today's world is similar to that which was common during the time of the Nazi's rise and the appeasement of Germany.

'Concentration camps aren't death camps, the Nazis aren't killing anyone yet.'
'The US's immigration camps are not concentration camps, they aren't killing anyone yet.'

The dehumanisation of immigrants is so ****ing similar to what Jews went through that it's scary how close we are to history repeating itself.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Honestly, a lot of the rhetoric of today's world is similar to that which was common during the time of the Nazi's rise and the appeasement of Germany.

'Concentration camps aren't death camps, the Nazis aren't killing anyone yet.'
'The US's immigration camps are not concentration camps, they aren't killing anyone yet.'

The dehumanisation of immigrants is so ****ing similar to what Jews went through that it's scary how close we are to history repeating itself.

You forgot the bit where the Nazis took away the citizens guns. That's quite key, because without their guns, the people couldn't defend themselves against authoritarianism.

Which side of the gun debate are you on again?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

You forgot the bit where the Nazis took away the citizens guns. That's quite key, because without their guns, the people couldn't defend themselves against authoritarianism.

Which side of the gun debate are you on again?

I'm glad you brought this up, because now I know you're a Shapiro supporter. It's not actually true, either, but I don't want to shatter your hopes and dreams.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I'm glad you brought this up, because now I know you're a Shapiro supporter. It's not actually true, either, but I don't want to shatter your hopes and dreams.

Shatter away. I'm a big boy.