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She seems so nice and genuine and beautiful ....is it her beauty that makes people keep her at arms lengths, even Yinrun has had a gossip about her ...
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I think originally she nailed her flag to the wrong group who seemed to look down at her a bit (a bit of inverted snobbery at play imo certainly from Paul) I think by the time she realised that that group didn't like her that much, the others had already made their bonds, luckily Trish has kind of taken her under her wing. I think she's just a reserved person in general, could be from spending time on those beauty pageant circuits where you have to watch what you say and be very mannerly etc
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I think originally she nailed her flag to the wrong group who seemed to look down at her a bit (a bit of inverted snobbery at play imo certainly from Paul) I think by the time she realised that that group didn't like her that much, the others had already made their bonds, luckily Trish has kind of taken her under her wing. I think she's just a reserved person in general, could be from spending time on those beauty pageant circuits where you have to watch what you say and be very mannerly etc

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…she did say that she didn’t do ‘the group thing’…that being part of a group isn’t a dynamic she’s comfortable with…the she prefers to just spend time with individuals etc…which also leaves her having a vulnerability as well by nature…but I admire her for that, that she hasn’t wavered in that even though that’s what the house has become…a group environment….
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…she did say that she didn’t do ‘the group thing’…that being part of a group isn’t a dynamic she’s comfortable with…the she prefers to just spend time with individuals etc…which also leaves her having a vulnerability as well by nature…but I admire her for that, that she hasn’t wavered in that even though that’s what the house has become…a group environment….
Although she willingly aligned herself to Trish’s group when the need arose for her. I think Noky does what serves her best at the time.
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Although she willingly aligned herself to Trish’s group when the need arose for her. I think Noky does what serves her best at the time.
…I think that maybe she spends time with specific people in a group, rather than in a group, if that makes sense…when something was said and she was ‘grouped together’ with Trish, she made a point a point of saying…similar words to she and Trish not spending that much time together or sum such similar thing…
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Because of her personality tbh

Noky really care of what the public might think, sometimes it takes priority over her own feelings. Thats why, she rarely show her vulnerabilities / flaws. She always want to look perfect & watch what she says / do

If you meet a stranger like that, who always consider what they say / do in front of you. You would assume either that person doesnt like you / fake like what the other HMs are saying in the early days tbh

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I think originally she nailed her flag to the wrong group who seemed to look down at her a bit (a bit of inverted snobbery at play imo certainly from Paul) I think by the time she realised that that group didn't like her that much, the others had already made their bonds, luckily Trish has kind of taken her under her wing. I think she's just a reserved person in general, could be from spending time on those beauty pageant circuits where you have to watch what you say and be very mannerly etc

I'm not saying this is a direct comparison, but something about her reminds me of the theatre kids I used to work with. A lot of them were very stereotypically Theatre Kid(tm) times, and there was a bit of a front going on, if that makes sense. They weren't being maliciously false, but there were some (especially those to whom that kind of mannerism didn't necessarily come naturally) who came off as fake.

I don't know much about the beauty pageant world, but I'd bet it's at least broadly similar.

That's the vibe I get from Noky, anyway.
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I'm not saying this is a direct comparison, but something about her reminds me of the theatre kids I used to work with. A lot of them were very stereotypically Theatre Kid(tm) times, and there was a bit of a front going on, if that makes sense. They weren't being maliciously false, but there were some (especially those to whom that kind of mannerism didn't necessarily come naturally) who came off as fake.

I don't know much about the beauty pageant world, but I'd bet it's at least broadly similar.

That's the vibe I get from Noky, anyway.
Yeah, exactly what i meant by that. It's probably a type of protection or front that people involved in stuff like that have to put up around themselves, it's probably hard to separate your real self from that performing side after a while
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She seems so nice and genuine and beautiful ....is it her beauty that makes people keep her at arms lengths, even Yinrun has had a gossip about her ...

I’ve always felt that Olivia was threatened by Noky’s ‘natural’ beauty tbh


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Because she is up her own arse and thinks she is something special.
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Because she is up her own arse and thinks she is something special.
I do think she emits a sense of superiority around others, but I would imagine the world of beauty contests is a pretty competitive and superficial one, where people gain their self-worth from the image they portray, and from being regarded as the best - it’s the sort of environment where everyone is there very much as an individual and for themselves, rather than to belong to a group.
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She is something special, compared to that mob in there
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To my mind it's because she's levelheaded and not impulsively tribalistic like so many people tend to be.
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Because of her personality tbh

Noky really care of what the public might think, sometimes it takes priority over her own feelings. Thats why, she rarely show her vulnerabilities / flaws. She always want to look perfect & watch what she says / do

If you meet a stranger like that, who always consider what they say / do in front of you. You would assume either that person doesnt like you / fake like what the other HMs are saying in the early days tbh

But once you get to know her, people will get past that.. since they know its just part of who she is
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Because of her personality tbh

Noky really care of what the public might think, sometimes it takes priority over her own feelings. Thats why, she rarely show her vulnerabilities / flaws. She always want to look perfect & watch what she says / do

If you meet a stranger like that, who always consider what they say / do in front of you. You would assume either that person doesnt like you / fake like what the other HMs are saying in the early days tbh

But once you get to know her, people will get past that.. since they know its just part of who she is
…I agree with a lot of what you say, Raxton…I always think as well that she seems quite a self disciplined person and I’m aware thats said to be a huge trait that is learned through pageant life …so I think there’s that as well…that, that might appear to be thought of as being more ‘detached’, you know…
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Because of her personality tbh

Noky really care of what the public might think, sometimes it takes priority over her own feelings. Thats why, she rarely show her vulnerabilities / flaws. She always want to look perfect & watch what she says / do

If you meet a stranger like that, who always consider what they say / do in front of you. You would assume either that person doesnt like you / fake like what the other HMs are saying in the early days tbh

But once you get to know her, people will get past that.. since they know its just part of who she is
that's an interesting take, I also wonder if inside Noky is a very insecure but also superficial person

She's either sobbing about something or obsessively trying to use intuition to incorrectly guess what other housemates may or may not feel visa vis the situation in the house.

If there is a fake housemate in the house, then for me it's her.. sorry Noky fans
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I've never been able to take to Noky.
There's something fails to ring true from her to me.

I wouldn't know where anyone really stood with her.
Maybe most of them in there don't either.
Hence her like floating around the outside mainly.
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There's something fails to ring true from her to me.

I wouldn't know where anyone really stood with her.
Maybe most of them in there don't either.
Hence her like floating around the outside mainly.
I feel exactly the same…
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She's not opening up. Complete opposite of Trish who I think is amazing.
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How can you say Noky hasn't opened up after the week both her & Trish have had , that's confusing to me .

Even when she didn't see her sister, you could see she was emotional .
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Even when she didn't see her sister, you could see she was emotional .
She's a fence sitter. Nice person, but I find her boring.
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I think because she hasn't picked a side nobody will fully accept her because she is a loose cannon and could throw anyone under the bus nomination wise. She is the unknown.
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She has probably avoided being in gangs/groups all her life. So this is just the norm for her wherever she is
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