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Old 12-09-2025, 09:54 PM #1
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Andy would be a decent leader I think

No way Starmer is beating Farage
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Burnham would win a leadership contest for sure
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Yes, but he must become an MP again,
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This would be ideal for me.
I've always rated Andy Burnham.
I know he seems to rub some people up the wrong way even in his area, which I find surprising.
As I have always found him courteous, helpful and more to the point he listens.
Plus believes a lot in working with others too.

I voted for him as leader in 2015 when I was a member.
He would be one of my main ideal leaders for Labour, I'd certainly return if he was to challenge for the leadership.

However, he isn't an MP, he's not in parliament.
So unless he can win a by election, if any real opportunity arises, then this ain't going to happen unfortunately.
It would be really great for me though.
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This would be ideal for me.
I've always rated Andy Burnham.
I know he seems to rub some people up the wrong way even in his area, which I find surprising.
As I have always found him courteous, helpful and more to the point he listens.
Plus believes a lot in working with others too.

I voted for him as leader in 2015 when I was a member.
He would be one of my main ideal leaders for Labour, I'd certainly return if he was to challenge for the leadership.

However, he isn't an MP, he's not in parliament.
So unless he can win a by election, if any real opportunity arises, then this ain't going to happen unfortunately.

It would be really great for me though.

Yes he needs to become an MP,


PM Starmer will not let him, now.
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i can't stand either of them and labour would need to win a by election which is pretty unlikely in all but the safest seats. Also, it's next to impossible to get rid of a sitting labour PM
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Andy Burnham needs to go Public
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Starmer isn't going anywhere 1 year into his premiership
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Andy Burnham has not ruled this fight out.

We need a by-election, for him to run.

He has tried twice, against J.Corbyn, before.


He would need 80 MP's to back him


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I wonder if anyone in Manchester would be willing to step aside so he can run...


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Also on BBCnewsHD for 20mins or so.

Should Burnham challenge Starmer?


The debate has concluded :10AM

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Andy Live on BBCnewsHD


Speaking on Radio Manchester.



He supports PM Starmer.

But he is angry Down South Railway they got
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Over 400 MPs and the only alternative to Starmer they can find isn't even in Parliament

I don't think Burnham is as popular as he thinks he is. Very arrogant, self-important man
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I don't think Burnham is as popular as he thinks he is. Very arrogant, self-important man
i've never liked him. If he can't win a popularity contest among labour party members ..... twice ..... how is he going to win a GE
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That's like flushing a toilet with a bucket full of shite.
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Andy Burnham is facing a backlash from dozens of Labour MPs over suggestions he could mount a challenge to Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer's leadership.

Burnham has criticised the Labour government in a series of interviews, and says he has been contacted by Labour MPs urging him to stand.

But the majority of Labour MPs who replied after being contacted by the BBC said they were against such a move.

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