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Crimson Dynamo · 26-02-2010, 04:34 PM

what do you think?

arista · 26-02-2010, 05:16 PM

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what do you think?

All we Know is Elton John confirmed
Jesus is Gay.

This is a Debate?????

Crimson Dynamo · 26-02-2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

All we Know is Elton John confirmed
Jesus is Gay.

This is a Debate?????

Your silly post regarding Reg Dwight will not help the debate no. For once you are correct. Leave your pin up boys out of serious debates.

arista · 26-02-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Your silly post regarding Reg Dwight will not help the debate no. For once you are correct. Leave your pin up boys out of serious debates.

He is Not my pin up.

This is Not a Debate .

Glenn. · 26-02-2010, 05:38 PM

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This is Not a Debate .

No you are quite correct. Just another usless thread about someone who never existed.

Crimson Dynamo · 26-02-2010, 05:40 PM

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No you are quite correct. Just another usless thread about someone who never existed.

It is posts like this that will be the death of Tibb. Contribute or leave.

arista · 26-02-2010, 06:57 PM

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No you are quite correct. Just another usless thread about someone who never existed.

You Are Most Wise
Glen.

Shasown · 26-02-2010, 05:37 PM

Its quite possible he did have siblings, after all Mary and Joseph could have easily had a physical relationship.

Wasnt this one idea about the Holy Grail being the bloodline of his family?

Crimson Dynamo · 26-02-2010, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown

Its quite possible he did have siblings, after all Mary and Joseph could have easily had a physical relationship.

Wasnt this one idea about the Holy Grail being the bloodline of his family?

whilst we often disagree you have much to add to serious debates.

Harry! · 26-02-2010, 05:42 PM

These pots and kettles are on full steam tonight.

Crimson Dynamo · 26-02-2010, 05:46 PM

Matthew 13:54-56 (New International Version)

Coming to his hometown, he began teaching the people in their synagogue, and they were amazed. "Where did this man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers?" they asked. "Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother's name Mary, and aren't his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas? Aren't all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?"

Shasown · 26-02-2010, 07:30 PM

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Matthew 13:54-56 (New International Version)

Coming to his hometown, he began teaching the people in their synagogue, and they were amazed. "Where did this man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers?" they asked. "Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother's name Mary, and aren't his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas? Aren't all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?"

Simply because the gospel refers to those people as his brothers, doesnt mean they were, they could be 1st cousins as there are other examples of 1st cousins being referred to as brothers in both the Old and New Testament. In other portions of the New Testament it does mention a different Mary being the mother of James and Joseph, Matt 27:56, and again if you use Mark its James and Joses 6:3 and 15:40.

Joseph could have had children in a previous but undocumented first marriage. They would be classed as his half brothers even though Jesus was really only the adopted/step son of Joseph.

The whole of the story of Jesus visiting his home town could simply have been made up. If you were starting a religion in the area where the person you are proclaiming as God came from, one of the first things you would guard against would be statements by those who knew him saying he never did any miracles when he was here. This chapter effectively removes that arguement against him.(verse 58).

The belief that Mary had other children after Joseph undermines the belief of the perpetual virgin, which the RC, Eastern Orthodox, a lot of protestant churches and even the Muslim faith all claim to be true.

*mazedsalv** · 26-02-2010, 08:21 PM

I had a holy related dream last night, possibly the only holy one ive had. I was walking to college and theres this house with like 3 floors i always walk passed in real life. In my dream, in the top window (i think its the attic), i saw Mary, and she had her hands in a praying sign, waved at me, and held a picture of an angel. The thing is, next to her, there was a baby in a cot, and it wasnt Jesus.

It was strange.

arista · 27-02-2010, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

I had a holy related dream last night, possibly the only holy one ive had. I was walking to college and theres this house with like 3 floors i always walk passed in real life. In my dream, in the top window (i think its the attic), i saw Mary, and she had her hands in a praying sign, waved at me, and held a picture of an angel. The thing is, next to her, there was a baby in a cot, and it wasnt Jesus.

It was strange.

May have been Baby Simon Cowell Jr.

In the Media gets into your mind
ass well as un well folks on Facebook.

2010..BB · 26-02-2010, 08:24 PM

i think jesus had a sister that he had sex with once after a whole bottle of mercury and then realised when he woke up "oh booooyyyy" then he couldnt look at her again there for carried the bed they did it on (which was shaped like a cross) and nailed himself to it??

Shasown · 26-02-2010, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010..BB

i think jesus had a sister that he had sex with once after a whole bottle of mercury and then realised when he woke up "oh booooyyyy" then he couldnt look at her again there for carried the bed they did it on (which was shaped like a cross) and nailed himself to it??

You been on the mercury yourself then I take it?

Beastie · 26-02-2010, 08:26 PM

Yes we are ALL his Brother's and Sister's.

*mazedsalv** · 26-02-2010, 08:31 PM

As for any siblings.
The bible says that Mary was a Virgin before Jesus was born. Which i still dont get, having a baby without having sex, and the angel just appearing and saying she will have a son chosen by God, was a bit odd.

However, after Jesus, she and Joseph could have had a sexual relationship and could have ended up having more children, however, any chidren they would have had, Im sure they would have appeared in the bible or even had a mention.

When it said Jesus' brothers in the bible "Judas, Simon, etc.... i do believe that these were probably cousins or friends, just in general the family, like we are called now. We are all brothers and sisters.

I also should add i do believe in God because everytime i think of something bad, I get a really bad pain in one area of my body and feel weird, am i the only one?? However, some things in the bible I doubt, im not sure if some of it is true. EG. the New Testement, they have some chapters that they say one thing, which another chapter of the same story, completely forgets, so maybe some of teh chapters are all not completely true.

Just typing the above about it not being true, I have recieved a reall bad pain in my veins... its weird i tell you

2010..BB · 26-02-2010, 08:32 PM

i once got hold of some mercury and placed a pellet full in someones pint, the moment it touched his tounge he said he had the taste in his mouth for weeks and gave him the ****s... its better than sitting in watchin bbc 1,2 and 4 anyway...

Shasown · 26-02-2010, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010..BB

i once got hold of some mercury and placed a pellet full in someones pint, the moment it touched his tounge he said he had the taste in his mouth for weeks and gave him the ****s... its better than sitting in watchin bbc 1,2 and 4 anyway...

I bet he loved you to bits when you told him what you had done eh? Oh how you must have both laughed and laughed.

2010..BB · 26-02-2010, 08:52 PM

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I bet he loved you to bits when you told him what you had done eh? Oh how you must have both laughed and laughed.

we did, hahahaaaa, it was funny.... the funniest thing is. HES A SCIENTIST LMAOOOOOO you should try it. Were always pranking each other, i told him yogurt was sick once and he didnt eat it!! lmaooooo

Shasown · 26-02-2010, 08:59 PM

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we did, hahahaaaa, it was funny.... the funniest thing is. HES A SCIENTIST LMAOOOOOO you should try it. Were always pranking each other, i told him yogurt was sick once and he didnt eat it!! lmaooooo

He he he you two are a pair arent you.

A scientist eh? Sounds really impressive. I take it biology isnt a strong point for him then eh?

2010..BB · 26-02-2010, 09:06 PM

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He he he you two are a pair arent you.

A scientist eh? Sounds really impressive. I take it biology isnt a strong point for him then eh?

ermm he is a biology teacher at the best school in liverpool actually so..... win win for him, chemistry is hiis weakest point, we was told by his students we are like an older reeves and mortimer, hes coming round in a minute with a few cans of red stripe you ask him any science question and he will answer it beofre your eyes haha