[Lucy.]

More reasons why David Cameron is a tosser. Cuts through public sector pay, bet you won't lose out will you Mr Cameron.
5% pay cuts, no child benefit. Wow you're a winner! Britain make way for strikes and chaos.

In a keynote speech outlining how he plans to pull Britain out of recession, the Conservative leader will tell delegates at his party's Spring conference in Cheltenham on Sunday that he will usher in a "complete change of direction" if he wins a general election next year.

Mr Cameron will say he is ready to rule and to take Britain through the "storm" of the economic downturn by changing the way the country is governed. "I'm not just talking about changing one group of ministers for another.

"I'm talking about a whole new, never-been-done-before approach to the way this country is run. Why? Because the world has completely changed."
Labour's economic incompetence has left Britain at risk of becoming the "sick man of Europe again", he will say as he promises a new approach based on delivering more for less and forcing ministers to be accountable for the money they spend.

Mr Cameron plans to incentivise ministers to save taxpayers' money as part of a massive cultural change in Whitehall aimed at getting Britain's spiralling debt crisis under control.

He and the Shadow Chancellor George Osborne are also drawing up plans to cut wasteful spending by overhauling the tax credit system, scrapping ID cards and reining in public sector salaries and pensions, among other ideas.

Listen here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/audi...-daily-podcast

[Enid]

He's also cutting back government spending by 20%, which is a GOOD thing. Britain is in debt and the sooner we get out of it, the better.

[Lucy.]

The sooner Britain's key workers lose 5% of their pay and family's who really depend on child benefit lose it is a good thing? It won't be good when mass strikes occur. I'm sure you remember the Thatcher period. No bins emptied? That time will come again.

[Sticks]

And you thought the deficit and the recession was the fault of evil bankers

Oh no

The bankers are wholly innocent and blameless, the real cause of all economic and other woes in this world were the evil public sector workers.

Once they are all sacked with absolutely no severance pay and replaced by outsourcing to a call centre in Bangladesh salvation will start to come.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Lucy.

More reasons why David Cameron is a tosser. Cuts through public sector pay, bet you won't lose out will you Mr Cameron.
5% pay cuts, no child benefit. Wow you're a winner! Britain make way for strikes and chaos.



Listen here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/audi...-daily-podcast

Amazing! Despite ALL the evidence that Labour have got Britain into this unholy mess, some blinkered people still won't put the blame where it squarely belongs, with the last Government! Surely even the dumbest person can understand the basic principle that if you spend more than you earn you will be in debt. Labour have left a debt so huge it will take decades for us to pay off.
Cameron will be releasing details of Labour's monumental mis-spending soon, and no doubt you'll still find idiots on here in denial as to why we are in this unprecedented financial situation. Labour has always been irresponsible in terms of the economy, and it has always been a Conservative government who has got the economy back on track, but will the dyed in the wool socialists ever admit it? - hell NO!

[Scarlett.]

I think its the only way out of this mess

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Lucy.

The sooner Britain's key workers lose 5% of their pay and family's who really depend on child benefit lose it is a good thing? It won't be good when mass strikes occur. I'm sure you remember the Thatcher period. No bins emptied? That time will come again.

If bins weren't emptied that was the fault of the union bosses who took the workers out on strike on the slightest whim. Maggie will go down in history as the PM who tamed the out of control Unions who were holding this country to ransom. So try putting the blame where it belongs for a change.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Lucy.

The sooner Britain's key workers lose 5% of their pay and family's who really depend on child benefit lose it is a good thing? It won't be good when mass strikes occur. I'm sure you remember the Thatcher period. No bins emptied? That time will come again.

I dont know who told you what, but you really have got your facts mixed up there Lucy. If you want to talk about strikes look at the way the unions dragged this country to its knees in the 70's while Wilson and Callaghan (Labour PMs) were at the wheel.

Trying googling "the winter of discontent".

[Lucy.]

The news.

[Barbie]

i thought Margaret Thatcher brought the country back up again. Didnt she privatise everything, making it more competitive and efficient?

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Lucy.

The news.

Which news was that?

[Novo]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Which news was that?

Newsround.....

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Novo

Newsround.....

Funnily enough Andy that was my first thought.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Barbie

i thought Margaret Thatcher brought the country back up again. Didnt she privatise everything, making it more competitive and efficient?

Depends which side of the fence you was on.

[Lucy.]

Bbc.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Depends which side of the fence you was on.

Well I was on the side of the fence that believed the world doesn't owe you a living, and that you don't spend what you don't have - good, honest working class principles. That's why Maggie's policies resonated with so many decent, hardworking folk and why she was returned to power to serve a third term.

[Shasown]

So when does Cameron actually say that child benefit would be removed or is it just more panic mongering? Nor is there any mention of pay cuts in the podcast.

Interestingly enough there was other talk of removing child benefit, child tax credits from people who earn above a certain level.

So really what will be cut at the moment is pretty much speculation.

[BB_Eye]

Once again, for all those "important" cuts Cameron and Osborne will be making, you can bet your ass there will still be billions wasted on MI5, MI6, Trident and the notoriously ineffectual private finance initiatives scheme. On top of that, taxes are actually being cut for the highest income brackets. This is just evidence that the Tory party are more interested in their ideological orthodoxy than the state of the economy or our national debt.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

Once again, for all those "important" cuts Cameron and Osborne will be making, you can bet your ass there will still be billions wasted on MI5, MI6, Trident and the notoriously ineffectual private finance initiatives scheme. On top of that, taxes are actually being cut for the highest income brackets. This is just evidence that the Tory party are more interested in their ideological orthodoxy than the state of the economy or our national debt.

Unlike the Labour Party I suppose who are the incompetent morons who have left us 3 trillion in debt due to their profligacy, and downright criminal reckless borrowing? As usual they walk away from the unbelievable mess they have created, and leave it to the Tories to get things back on track and under control again, until, no doubt, the idiotic GBP who have the memory of a goldfish, vote them back in to do it all again.

[bananarama]

The Tories have two popular scapegoats to blame Britains problems on.......Yea the usual imagined culprits..The civil service and without fail "Europe". Divert the public by attacking those and they are on a winner for another few years until the they are rumbles and booted out again but not before thay have done imense damage to society.


Way back in the 80's and 90's they were getting rid of civil servants who were on a wage of just £6000 a year or less only to have to spend and average of £10000 a year to keep someone on benfits because there were no jobs available for the lower or less skilled. That's fact official Tory statistis at the time. The Tories will never learn..just as some Tory voters either new or old will ever learn that the Tory party is not a party of the many but a party for the few.......


One good thing about the coalition is that although they don't realise it yet the lib/dems have commited political suicide by associating themselves with a right wing nutter slash and burn party..........Next election whenever that is they Lib'Dems will have lesss than a dozen MP's........

[Angus]

Lol - despite the overwhelming evidence of how New Labour has practically annihilated this country in just 13 years of arrogant incompetence there are still the usual apologists trying to pin the blame anywhere except where it's deserved. Now that we all have to pay the price for the criminal irresponsibility of the useless tossers we've finally managed to oust out of government, the idiots who voted them into power for 13 long years have the audacity to whinge and blame the new coalition for having to crack the whip in order to save this country from bankruptcy.