[foxysarah92]

Do you think it is right or wrong for us to pay for sex changes

[Jack_]

Right. I've got nothing against transexuals, I really couldn't care less.

But you're born the way you are - if you want to change anything about yourself you should have to pay for it [similar to the way people pay for clothes].

The only exception should be if it's life threatening.

[Vicky.]

I do not see the problem with it, if people think it is acceptable to pay for boob jobs and gastric bands on the NHS.

[Lewis.]

There are a lot of sides to this argument that people don't think about before coming to a conclusion. I've heard a lot of stories about men who can't afford it and end up cutting and sewing things to their body, which is a big risk to their general health. For me it depends on the situation.

[foxysarah92]

yes but then shouldnt i be aloud laser treatment to get rid of my freckles on the nhs if they give out free sex changes

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by foxysarah92

yes but then shouldnt i be aloud laser treatment to get rid of my freckles on the nhs if they give out free sex changes

How on earth do you figure that?

Getting rid of freckles is purely cosmetic.

[M X]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I do not see the problem with it, if people think it is acceptable to pay for boob jobs and gastric bands on the NHS.

this

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by foxysarah92

yes but then shouldnt i be aloud laser treatment to get rid of my freckles on the nhs if they give out free sex changes

If you think that getting rid of your freckles is the same as someone getting a sex change you obviously have no understanding of what transgender is.

[foxysarah92]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

If you think that getting rid of your freckles is the same as someone getting a sex change you obviously have no understanding of what transgender is.

I do i had a friend who was going to get a sex change
But being born with freckles can be quite emotional and you can't get rid of them easily trust i tried so technically cause it is emotionally damaging you should be aloud it on the nhs

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by foxysarah92

I do i had a friend who was going to get a sex change
But being born with freckles can be quite emotional and you can't get rid of them easily trust i tried so technically cause it is emotionally damaging you should be aloud it on the nhs

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, I have freckles as well and have never felt emotionally damaged because of them and yes it is cosmetic, you could apply that logic to anything like having a big nose etc. it's still not the same thing.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, I have freckles as well and have never felt emotionally damaged because of them and yes it is cosmetic, you could apply that logic to anything like having a big nose etc. it's still not the same thing.

Plus freckles could easily be covered with makeup, I assume anyway. Even if you had to get that special makeup for birthmarks.

I can't believe someone is trying to compare having freckles to being born in the wrong body and having years of psychological torment over it. Seriously.

[Lee.]

Because of some cruel genetic mistake, these people NEED to have this sort of operation to become the person they know they are.I think having to live in a body you don't feel is right is a bit more emotionally damaging than having freckles..

[foxysarah92]

Yeah but i dont think we should have to pay for it on the nhs because that means that my parents are having to pay for it and different things can affect different in different emotinal states

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by foxysarah92

Yeah but i dont think we should have to pay for it on the nhs because that means that my parents are having to pay for it and different things can affect different in different emotinal states

they are contributing like everyone else including to the person who gets the operation and on the flip side the person who gets the operation is paying for anything that your parents get on the NHS

[M X]

Originally Posted by foxysarah92

I do i had a friend who was going to get a sex change
But being born with freckles can be quite emotional and you can't get rid of them easily trust i tried so technically cause it is emotionally damaging you should be aloud it on the nhs

a transgendered person is someone who is born female but in a males body and vice versa. you're not born an unfreckled person in an freckled body.

[Sunday]

No definately not, its cosmetic.
Gastric bands should not be paid for by the NHs either, go to Slimming world or weight watchers, dont be lazy. My friend lost 12 stone on WW.

[foxysarah92]

Sorry what if the person is on benefits then they aren't paying anything towards there sex change

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Sunday

No definately not, its cosmetic.
Gastric bands should not be paid for by the NHs either, go to Slimming world or weight watchers, dont be lazy. My friend lost 12 stone on WW.

there is no diet that can change your sex though! And it's not cosmetic it's psychological

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by foxysarah92

Yeah but i dont think we should have to pay for it on the nhs because that means that my parents are having to pay for it and different things can affect different in different emotinal states

Oh, I love it when people moan on about stuff like this when they dont actually pay tax themselves.

So your parents have a problem with this?

If they do, do they also have a problem with the NHS providing boob jobs/gastric bands/reconstructive surgery?



As for your 'different things can affect different in different emotinal states' yes that is very true. However I fail to see how someone trapped in the wrong body, is on the same level as someone who doesn't like having freckles.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by foxysarah92

Sorry what if the person is on benefits then they aren't paying anything towards there sex change

and what about the person who needs to go to hospital with a broken leg who is benefits? should they be turned away too?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Sunday

No definately not, its cosmetic.
Gastric bands should not be paid for by the NHs either, go to Slimming world or weight watchers, dont be lazy. My friend lost 12 stone on WW.

It is cosmetic...that you were born in the wrong body?!

People can diet instead of having gastric bands...the only way to sort out a sex change yourself is begin chopping parts of yourself off...in which case you would end up paying for the surgery required to stop the person actually bleeding to death :S

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by foxysarah92

Sorry what if the person is on benefits then they aren't paying anything towards there sex change

This gets worse.

So now people on benefits shouldn't be entitled to NHS care?

You do know, not many people CHOOSE to be on benefits?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

and what about the person who needs to go to hospital with a broken leg who is benefits? should they be turned away too?

Yes, however if you decide you dont want freckles, that should be available...because your parents pay tax

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yes, however if you decide you dont want freckles, that should be available...because your parents pay tax

all this time I never realised that I am actually disabled

[Sunday]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

It is cosmetic...that you were born in the wrong body?!

People can diet instead of having gastric bands...the only way to sort out a sex change yourself is begin chopping parts of yourself off...in which case you would end up paying for the surgery required to stop the person actually bleeding to death :S

So they should save up and pay for it themselves.
Its not life threatening.
People cannot get cancer drugs because they cost the NHS too much, they need to stop those type of ops and save peoples lives and give them the drugs so they can live.