[Toxic]

Do you support gay marriage?

[spitfire]

No.

[Toxic]

Originally Posted by spitfire

No.

Why?

[rinkydinkpanther]

I just dont care...lets talk about important things , like the way old people are treated and the way their carers are treated and disabled rights which have fallen off the radar and the gap between rich and poor and massive youth unemployment, nhs problems and the failing police services, etc etc

[Toxic]

Originally Posted by rinkydinkpanther

I just dont care...lets talk about important things , like the way old people are treated and the way their carers are treated and disabled rights which have fallen off the radar and the gap between rich and poor and massive youth unemployment, nhs problems and the failing police services, etc etc

So the social repression of millions isn't important? The suicide of thousands around the world because of gay bullying isn't important? This is an important issue, gay people need the same rights so the views of bigoted people can one day be changed.

[BBfanUSA]

Before we continue I'm sure there's probably a thread for this

and yes it should. In Fact it's legal in my state go iowa

[Toxic]

I love how the abusive/offensive messages got deleted as if they never happened...

[Black Dagger]

It doesn't really bother me, it would be nice if people woke up and realised that it was 2012 and not the ****ing dark-ages, but they won't. So I've come to terms that it won't be made legal everywhere. Even if it was I doubt I'd get married.

[spitfire]

Originally Posted by Toxic

Why?

Why would I want to waste my time supporting it? I could not give a monkies if someone is married or not.

[Redway]

I voted 'yes' on the poll. As long as somebody's beliefs, sexuality, lifestyle, etc, doesn't harm me in any way I fail to see any problem - it's their life, not mine. I really don't see why anybody would say otherwise.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Toxic

So the social repression of millions isn't important? The suicide of thousands around the world because of gay bullying isn't important? This is an important issue, gay people need the same rights so the views of bigoted people can one day be changed.

Nobody's bigoted for having an opinion, Toxic.

However, if you act on those views and discriminate against someone else based on any feature of them you dislike, then the said person would indeed fall into the 'bigoted' category.

Don't throw names at someone just because you dislike their views.

[joeysteele]

I am not bothered at all as to anyones sexual orientation,no matter the make up of the relationship.
If 2 people ,2 men, 2 women or a man and women want to make a commitment to each other for life and want to call it marriage then I don't think there should be any barriers to that taking place.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

deleting my posts

[lily.]

It's just marriage... I don't consider myself to be in a 'straight marriage'... so all this 'gay marriage' is just nonsense.

We're not going to start deciding that people can't marry because they're short or ugly.. so why should we get to decide based on their sexuality..

It's all bull**** in my opinion. I don't give a flying **** whether someone is into guys or girls or both .. I don't get why people care so much about what others are doing.

[lostalex]

what a stupid poll. The poll should be do you believe in equal rights or not. yes or no?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by rinkydinkpanther

I just dont care...lets talk about important things , like the way old people are treated and the way their carers are treated and disabled rights which have fallen off the radar and the gap between rich and poor and massive youth unemployment, nhs problems and the failing police services, etc etc

and gay rights arn't important? so old people, young people, disabled people are important but gay people arn't?? wtf is wrong with you bigot??

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Redway

Nobody's bigoted for having an opinion, Toxic.

However, if you act on those views and discriminate against someone else based on any feature of them you dislike, then the said person would indeed fall into the 'bigoted' category.

Don't throw names at someone just because you dislike their views.

he wasn't throwing "names around" bigot and bigoted are real words with real definitions, maybe you should look them up because you don't seem to have the greatest grasp on the english language.

Bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by spitfire

Why would I want to waste my time supporting it? I could not give a monkies if someone is married or not.

I'd be interested to see what people who argue that it "doesn't affect them" would have done during the civil rights movement and whether they'd have supported Martin Luther King Jr. in his heyday. You're really inspiring.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by lostalex

he wasn't throwing "names around" bigot and bigoted are real words with real definitions, maybe you should look them up because you don't seem to have the greatest grasp on the english language.

Bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

Are you serious? If I'm taking A-level Engish, having attained the highest possible grade at GCSE English, then I clearly do have a grasp of the English language, thank you, so maybe you should get your facts right there.

Not everyone who believes that being gay is wrong necessarily hates the idea. In case you didn't realise, I'm on about the people who simply don't like the idea of being gay or gay marriage but doesn't mind the people. It does happen, you know.

It would also be appreciated if you would desist from saying I have no grasp of the English language whe I clearly do, otherwise you wouldn't be able to understand my posts now, would you?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Redway

Are you serious? If I'm taking A-level Engish, having attained the highest possible grade at GCSE English, then I clearly do have a grasp of the English language, thank you, so maybe you should get your facts right there.

Not everyone who believes that being gay is wrong necessarily hates the idea. In case you didn't realise, I'm on about the people who simply don't like the idea of being gay or gay marriage but doesn't mind the people. It does happen, you know.

It would also be appreciated if you would desist from saying I have no grasp of the English language whe I clearly do, otherwise you wouldn't be able to understand my posts now, would you?

Well then don't say that using the word "bigot" is "throwing names around". as if it's just a schoolyard taunt. it's not, it's an accurate description.

It's not "throwing names around", it's using the appropriate word to describe people who fit the definition.

and your argument that you can hate homosexuality but not hate homosexuals is ridiculous, it's like saying, "i don't hate black people, i just hate the black people that act black"

"I don't mind asian people, as long as they don't do anything asian."

WTF.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Well then don't say that using the word "bigot" is "throwing names around". as if it's just a schoolyard taunt. it's not, it's an accurate description. It's not "throwing names around", it's using the appropriate word to describe people who fit the definition.

Fair enough but, as mentioned before, I was actually talking about people who aren't keen on the idea but don't dismiss gays as a whole, which is fine. You can't just brush off the opinions you don't wish to hear and whether or not you like it people will have opinions on any group of people and they're entitled them even if they offend you.

In response to your actual post, though, I refer you to my first sentence before you go round the houses and take what I actually said out of context.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Redway

Fair enough but, as mentioned before, I was actually talking about people who aren't keen on the idea but don't dismiss gays as a whole, which is fine. You can't just brush off the opinions you don't wish to hear and whether or not you like it people will have opinions on any group of people and they're entitled them even if they offend you.

In response to your actual post, though, I refer you to my first sentence before you go round the houses and take what I actually said out of context.

does it sound like i'm "brushing it off"??? if i was brushing it off, i wouldn't be responding to you, obviously i'm not brushing anything off. I combat bigoted ideas with everything i have.

CIVIL RIGHTS IS NOT A MATTER OF OPINION.

[lily.]

Originally Posted by Redway

I agree with the above post. It's like taking a dislike to someone or think they shouldn't be given certain rights just because they like cucumber and you don't.

Edit - just realised how bad an example that is. But you all get the gist...

I quite liked the analogy to be honest..

[InOne]

It's not something I really think about.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Well then don't say that using the word "bigot" is "throwing names around". as if it's just a schoolyard taunt. it's not, it's an accurate description.

It's not "throwing names around", it's using the appropriate word to describe people who fit the definition.

and your argument that you can hate homosexuality but not hate homosexuals is ridiculous, it's like saying, "i don't hate black people, i just hate the black people that act black"

"I don't mind asian people, as long as they don't do anything asian."

WTF.

Those aren't the best examples. My next door neighbour doesn't think homosexuality is natural and in a way finds it "weird" still. She's in her 60's so obviously stuck in her ways. But she doesn't have anything against gay people and wouldn't treat them any differently, she just doesn't understand it.