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Old 24-07-2013, 04:08 AM #1
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Hazel deserve everything she get.she was flirting with a guy WHO had a girlfriend on the outside then she got off with him in the safe house.Gina said something about the women code and how U never break it,she didnt just break it she broke it on National tv.she lied to dexter about daley not saying he was not going to talk to dexter on the outside.she Also told daley one thing and said another thing in the diary room, then she got off with him afterwards like nothing had happened,if she was so scared why was she sharing his bed ten mins later.you want more she drop dan like a massive **** when he got put up then went back to him after dan worked out what she did.ok more now what she is doing is using Charlie to hopefully get with cullum or dexter so people dont focus on her with daley,its so see threw its scary, she really is an evil person inside. some people just need to learn how to read her intensions better.
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who's daley? there was never any housemate called daley..think you're getting a bit mixed up there
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Not a big hazel fan but flirting between housemates whether they are single or not is hardly unique. To act as if hazel is some sort of Typhoid Mary or something is nonsense. This whole attitude is best left to spinster cat ladies clucking their tongues and clutching their pearls.
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Same old story .. Hazel should've been ejected not Daley.. Give it a rest.
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1 week in the BB house can change everything, the public dont seem to hold much of a grudge. I can also be the same (Im really not finding Hazel that bad atm)
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1 week in the BB house can change everything, the public dont seem to hold much of a grudge. I can also be the same (Im really not finding Hazel that bad atm)
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I have said many times Hazel was unwise to make a move on Daley, she was and still is a single girl though so what was wrong in testing the water.
Daley had the committed relationship, he said so on going in, when he was flattered by Hazel's interest, he changed his story that he wasn't sure if he had a relationship outside as they had problems before he came in.
He pulled Hazel in probably more than she made the moves by what he was then saying.

What happened in them being paired together for the safe house was BB's fault not Hazel's or his to be fair but the aggression and the attack with the threats he made to her in the safe house were all his doing no one elses and certainly not Hazels.
They had engaged in fun before,that is what she thought it was until it turned sinister due to Daley's temperament.

Hazel has had an experience, a bad one and will have learned from it, Daley was exposed as a liar and and for being aggressive, he rightly got booted out for that.
All Hazel has done is misguidedly go for a guy who could have ben in a relationship but later said he wasn't really.
That exonerates her after that,he was virtually saying he was free too then.

So in my opinion, Hazel has done nothing really wrong and in fact has had a likely lucky escape from this situation with Daley's aggressive temperament..
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People have really selective hearing sometimes... He said several times (every day!) To Hazel and others, that his girlfriend had basically broken up with him or put them "on a break" before he went into the house. "She said we're not together, you go in there and do whatever and we'll see what happens when you get out" is along the lines of what he told both Hazel and Dexter in several conversations.

Apparently this was a lie, but was Hazel supposed to somehow know that? Why wouldn't she just accept what he was saying as true? It's hardly the first time someone has lied about their relationship status to get a bit of touchy:feely with someone else but it makes him the arsehole, not her.
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Hazel deserve everything she get.she was flirting with a guy WHO had a girlfriend on the outside then she got off with him in the safe house.Gina said something about the women code and how U never break it,she didnt just break it she broke it on National tv.she lied to dexter about daley not saying he was not going to talk to dexter on the outside.she Also told daley one thing and said another thing in the diary room, then she got off with him afterwards like nothing had happened,if she was so scared why was she sharing his bed ten mins later.you want more she drop dan like a massive **** when he got put up then went back to him after dan worked out what she did.ok more now what she is doing is using Charlie to hopefully get with cullum or dexter so people dont focus on her with daley,its so see threw its scary, she really is an evil person inside. some people just need to learn how to read her intensions better.

Why would Hazel have any reason to show loyalty to a female she's never met and probably never will? Daley was the one with a significant other when he entered the house. At first he was all "Oh I have a girlfriend," then it was "Oh I'm in a pickle," and then "we decided to take a break before all of this," and then "I don't know whether I have a girlfriend or not?"

As badly as I feel for Daley's girlfriend, the one who needs to be under fire is Daley, whom ultimately made the choices he made.

Furthermore, with all of the dark and sordid tales coming out about Daley's secret ex-wife and kids, his aggressive tone in nature, and his domineering size and stature, coupled with him physically threatening Hazel and restraining her on the bed by both her throat and wrists shows that Daley is far from a saint. If he would conduct himself in that manner on national television, what in the world do you think he would do in an alcohol-fueled rage behind closed doors where there are no cameras or no one to bear witness to his actions?

Bottom line, Hazel flirted with a man she found attractive and seemed to have a lot of similar interests with. She had no loyalties to a woman that wasn't married, nor fathered children with. And even if Hazel is looked down-upon for going for what she wants, in the end, she was placed in an extremely volatile situation that could have caused her physical and mental harm had it been taken any further.

I'm not saying Hazel is a saint, but for Pete's sake, let's get off the Hazel-Bashing bandwagon already.
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i can't stand that everyone keeps saying hazel is single, let me ask you a question, i am single right now so is it ok if i start flirting and climbing on to your bf's or husbands? surely you wouldn't mind it as i am single, right?



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i can't stand that everyone keeps saying hazel is single, let me ask you a question, i am single right now so is it ok if i start flirting and climbing on to your bf's or husbands? surely you wouldn't mind it as i am single, right?



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There's plenty more fish in the sea and life DOES move on....
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From what Hazel has said since, it appears Daley told her he was single too. Not too hard to believe given his story changed everyday.

I refuse to hold anything against her when she thought she was flirting with a single guy. Even though it was nauseating to watch most of the time
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From what Hazel has said since, it appears Daley told her he was single too. Not too hard to believe given his story changed everyday.

I refuse to hold anything against her when she thought she was flirting with a single guy. Even though it was nauseating to watch most of the time
Amen. I could go on... but yeah... you've summed it up nicely!
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i can't stand that everyone keeps saying hazel is single, let me ask you a question, i am single right now so is it ok if i start flirting and climbing on to your bf's or husbands? surely you wouldn't mind it as i am single, right?



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I wouldn't blame a guy for trying, my missus is gorgeous . So no I wouldn't think anything bad of him. She would (I hope!) Kick him out of bed if he tried to climb in. I also have no problem with her flirting (because we are adults and there's nothing wrong with harmless flirting!), but there is "a line" like callum said. It would be MY PARTNERS responsibility not to cross that line. Not the random bloke's. If she did, I would be mad at HER, not the guy... He hasn't done anything to me? It would be her that has hurt me.

So, that's how it goes for Daley and Hazel. Completely his responsibility if he cheats on and hurts his girlfriend.

The whole concept of a "homewrecker" is absolutely ridiculous. if a pretty face or nice body can tempt someone to cheat on their partner, then their relationship was junk in the first place. There was no home to wreck.

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Hazel deserve everything she get.she was flirting with a guy WHO had a girlfriend on the outside then she got off with him in the safe house.Gina said something about the women code and how U never break it,she didnt just break it she broke it on National tv.she lied to dexter about daley not saying he was not going to talk to dexter on the outside.she Also told daley one thing and said another thing in the diary room, then she got off with him afterwards like nothing had happened,if she was so scared why was she sharing his bed ten mins later.you want more she drop dan like a massive **** when he got put up then went back to him after dan worked out what she did.ok more now what she is doing is using Charlie to hopefully get with cullum or dexter so people dont focus on her with daley,its so see threw its scary, she really is an evil person inside. some people just need to learn how to read her intensions better.
Another Hazel hate thread: Ok I will address some of the stuff you have said OP. Nobody deserves being threatened, verbally abused or physically abused ( hands on neck hard slap etc) She DID NOT GET OFF WITH HIM. They may or may not have kissed under the duvet but we dont know for sure and we cannot make assumptions on what we have not seen.

Daley is being condoned alot in here and that is totally criminal. Even people who didnt like Hazel can see that she was frightend by the whole ordeal. She was single going into the house Daley had a girlfriend. Nobody can bewitch someone so much that they cant use their free will and right to just say no or simply walk away. Daley made the first move by writing on Hazels hand that he liked her and hangingout with her.

I totally admit that Hazel flirted with him too much but as i said he was big enough and man enough to walk away if he wanted to. Hazel had no qualms with Gina until she attacked her after seeing her VT For Gods sake Ginas was totally worse as were Callums and a few of the others but nobody cares about that.

Daley DID say that Dexter wouldnt be someone he would normally socialise with or have much to do with on the outside so Hazel wasnt lying here. Most importantly of all is your point about her and Charlie. If you have been watching the whole series they have been friends since about week 2. I know in the first week she said she found it hard to connect with her. They have never nominated each other and have been there for each other through everything. Hazel could well have made a huge issue about what Charlie said about Hazels ex but she spoke to a few of her close friends about it and then asked Charlie for a hug when things had died down.

Gina is STILL MAKING AN ISSUE of what Charlie said to her regarding someone not fancying you then fancying you. Please OP get ur facts straight. If you dislike Hazel fair enough, lots of people do for various reasons but nobody should spout lies about her no matter how much you dont like her. She is a human being and Im sure you wouldnt like those things said abouT your favourite housemate
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She's coming across well recently. She is a bitch, but deep down not a bad person.
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Another Hazel hate thread: Ok I will address some of the stuff you have said OP. Nobody deserves being threatened, verbally abused or physically abused ( hands on neck hard slap etc) She DID NOT GET OFF WITH HIM. They may or may not have kissed under the duvet but we dont know for sure and we cannot make assumptions on what we have not seen.

Daley is being condoned alot in here and that is totally criminal. Even people who didnt like Hazel can see that she was frightend by the whole ordeal. She was single going into the house Daley had a girlfriend. Nobody can bewitch someone so much that they cant use their free will and right to just say no or simply walk away. Daley made the first move by writing on Hazels hand that he liked her and hangingout with her.

I totally admit that Hazel flirted with him too much but as i said he was big enough and man enough to walk away if he wanted to. Hazel had no qualms with Gina until she attacked her after seeing her VT For Gods sake Ginas was totally worse as were Callums and a few of the others but nobody cares about that.

Daley DID say that Dexter wouldnt be someone he would normally socialise with or have much to do with on the outside so Hazel wasnt lying here. Most importantly of all is your point about her and Charlie. If you have been watching the whole series they have been friends since about week 2. I know in the first week she said she found it hard to connect with her. They have never nominated each other and have been there for each other through everything. Hazel could well have made a huge issue about what Charlie said about Hazels ex but she spoke to a few of her close friends about it and then asked Charlie for a hug when things had died down.

Gina is STILL MAKING AN ISSUE of what Charlie said to her regarding someone not fancying you then fancying you. Please OP get ur facts straight. If you dislike Hazel fair enough, lots of people do for various reasons but nobody should spout lies about her no matter how much you dont like her. She is a human being and Im sure you wouldnt like those things said abouT your favourite housemate
Cant be arsed to reply to more unjust Hazel hate but I agree with most of the things said in this.
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Im so glad that people have seen OP's post as a vicious and unjust assault on Hazels character. And thanks Girth. i do tend to go on a bit lol but I hate it when people mount a witch hunt for someone who definitely doesnt deserve it. Peace xxx
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No, it's not OK but I would expect my husband to sort it out not tell her he has an erection and that he's not sure if he's married anymore............ It wasn't her greatest moment but she doesn't deserve to be burned at the stake for it either, the onus was on Daley to put a stop to it not encourage it
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Im so glad that people have seen OP's post as a vicious and unjust assault on Hazels character. And thanks Girth. i do tend to go on a bit lol but I hate it when people mount a witch hunt for someone who definitely doesnt deserve it. Peace xxx
Me too. One of the reasons why I'm starting to defend Hazel so much is cuz of the unjust, over top criticism she's getting from so many parties. As I said in another thread these haters cant really tell us what she did that was so disgusting, and they don't seem to be too interested that it was nearly two weeks ago they still want to take shots at her for some reason. I'm not gonna join in the witch hunt. I like her, I think she's handling being up better than all the HM's put together. I just hope the public and BOTs can give her a bit more of a chance,
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No, it's not OK but I would expect my husband to sort it out not tell her he has an erection and that he's not sure if he's married anymore............ It wasn't her greatest moment but she doesn't deserve to be burned at the stake for it either, the onus was on Daley to put a stop to it not encourage it
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No, it's not OK but I would expect my husband to sort it out not tell her he has an erection and that he's not sure if he's married anymore............ It wasn't her greatest moment but she doesn't deserve to be burned at the stake for it either, the onus was on Daley to put a stop to it not encourage it
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Oh I could and it would be my husband not the girl who flirted with him, he'd be the only person who owed me anything
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