[lovebigbrotheruk]

Some seem to have automatically bunched these two together like they are twins.

I find it quite disturbing that Toya is being called all these vile names for next to nothing because to me she is one of the most level headed and grounded people in the house. If it was Jale or Kimberley with Toya's personality, I'm sure people would love them.

Toya is not Pauline, so stop discussing them like they are the same person

[chuff me dizzy]

Sorry but we all have minds of our own and opinions, you seem to be in the minority where Toyas concerned

[Josy]

I think it's pretty obvious that they aren't the same person

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

Some seem to have automatically bunched these two together like they are twins.

I find it quite disturbing that Toya is being called all these vile names for next to nothing because to me she is one of the most level headed and grounded people in the house. If it was Jale or Kimberley with Toya's personality, I'm sure people would love them.

Toya is not Pauline, so stop discussing them like they are the same person

What do you mean by this ?

[Headie]

I can see why people are taking a dislike to Toya, but she really hasn't done anything that warrants getting this much hate this early. Granted, she's with the wrong side of the house at the moment and is sticking up for the wrong people, but I find it hilarious that people who have Helen in their sigs/avatars are slating Toya for being loud/bossy/rude etc.

I think we'll see a different and better side to Toya once Pauline is gone.

[InOne]

Toya is a mess. She's getting involved in things she shouldn't and seems to deliberately want to cause trouble. When Pauline goes she's the next killjoy waiting in line.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Hayden

I can see why people are taking a dislike to Toya, but she really hasn't done anything that warrants getting this much hate this early. Granted, she's with the wrong side of the house at the moment and is sticking up for the wrong people, but I find it hilarious that people who have Helen in their sigs/avatars are slating Toya for being loud/bossy/rude etc.

I think we'll see a different and better side to Toya once Pauline is gone.

Its the way she talks to people I dont like, shes SOOOOOOOOOOOO arrogant and I dont like arrogance

[Cherie]

Helen and Tamara were lumped together and called all sorts so I don't really see the point you are making, guilt by association I suppose, Toya disappeared up Pauline's arse a few days back after saying she doesn't do cliques, she turned on Jale because of Pauline, she turned on Christopher also because Pauline didn't like him, she also seemed to have a problem with Marlon liking Jale though what it has got to do with her is anyones guess, she seems to have lost her way a bit considering that she was quite grounded in the first few days.

[Macie Lightfoot]

If you're going for the #racism card I'll share my thoughts because why not?

Toya and Pauline are obviously different people with different personality traits. However, neither are particularly likable at all. I haven't seen anyone discussing them like they're the same person and as quick as I am to throw out the #racism card when it comes to people not liking black girls, someone who looks like Jale or Kimberly (aka white, since that's what you're getting at) with Toya's personality would still be really unlikable! It's her personality that is off-putting, not her skin color.

[Bluerang1]

Originally Posted by Hayden

I can see why people are taking a dislike to Toya, but she really hasn't done anything that warrants getting this much hate this early. Granted, she's with the wrong side of the house at the moment and is sticking up for the wrong people, but I find it hilarious that people who have Helen in their sigs/avatars are slating Toya for being loud/bossy/rude etc.

I think we'll see a different and better side to Toya once Pauline is gone.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

Toya is not Pauline

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Toya hasn't really stood out to me apart from the whole me me me argument with Jale. That's the only reason i think she gets compared to Pauline is because she loves talking about herself and how "real" she is.

HATE THAT ****.

Nothing worse than someone who talks about themselves all the time, you know the ones. You're having a conversation and they butt in and say "well im the type of person that....".

**** off.

[smeagol]

pauline is the devil and toya is her willing bitch

[Vicky.]

IMO Toya is disliked at the min because she seems to have gone over to the bitchy group. Nothing more nothing less. And no one thinks shes Pauline...shes nowhere near as awful

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Hayden

I can see why people are taking a dislike to Toya, but she really hasn't done anything that warrants getting this much hate this early. Granted, she's with the wrong side of the house at the moment and is sticking up for the wrong people, but I find it hilarious that people who have Helen in their sigs/avatars are slating Toya for being loud/bossy/rude etc.

I think we'll see a different and better side to Toya once Pauline is gone.

tbf though the majority of people really dislike Helen for those very reasons, it's really nothing to do with race. Everyone loved Pauline launch night and Toya until she lumped herself in with Pauline

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

tbf though the majority of people really dislike Helen for those very reasons, it's really nothing to do with race. Everyone loved Pauline launch night and Toya until she lumped herself in with Pauline

I never said it was to do with race at all, that's what the OP said.

I was just saying how there are some people who have Helen listed as their fave yet are hating on Toya when she's only been a fraction of the rudeness/bossiness/arrogance that Helen has been showing in the house.

And it amazes me how some people love Helen but hate Pauline when they're basically the same person but different race/age.

I just don't understand it at all - but I never said it was to do with race.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

IMO Toya is disliked at the min because she seems to have gone over to the bitchy group. Nothing more nothing less. And no one thinks shes Pauline...shes nowhere near as awful

Agree with this tbh. Once Pauline's gone, if she goes back to the other side of the house I think she'd be much more likeable than she is now.

TBH I think that's what the "underdogs" side are missing - they need someone who is able to fight their corner the whole time and no one seems like they want to step up at the moment.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Agree with this tbh. Once Pauline's gone, if she goes back to the other side of the house I think she'd be much more likeable than she is now.

TBH I think that's what the "underdogs" side are missing - they need someone who is able to fight their corner the whole time and no one seems like they want to step up at the moment.

I hope she does ,shes done herself no favours being Paulines mouthpiece and the way she speaks to people,and doesnt allow them to speak back (just as Pauline does )