[Miranda123]

Listen guys, Im ready for the backlash, but Im thinking that if helen wasnt there for the duration, we wouldnt have someone to hate on so much

Toya is a non-entity, she's a flip flopper and because she keeps talking about how intellectual she is, just comes across as a stupid gobby bird who now thinks she has said too much and is 'doing a pauline' by staying out of the rows

Helen, on the other hand, has a drink and just cant help herself, there is NO FILTER, which makes for a great HM

Im actually starting to think giving her the pass was the best contribution the nasty Pauline gave the viewers

[Josy]

Nah. I felt the tiniest bit sorry for her the other night but then seeing the clips of her last night again just made me remember why I severely disliked her in the first place.

[Tarryn]

No.
She is a nasty bitch. The things she has said about Jale have been awful.
Her tears last night made be so angry.
Crying because she thinks she has been treated badly, when she has done that to others.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Josy

Nah. I felt the tiniest bit sorry for her the other night but then seeing the clips of her last night again just made me remember why I severely disliked her in the first place.

I know, but I do love her "BORE OFF" comments to Matthew, he's a little weedy boy anyway and if the HM's dont like the way a conversation is going, they should f..k off

we want to see warts and all, so we dont need censorship from within the house

Also Mark needs to decide if he's okay with that kind of game or not, he seems to be swinging between the two groups and I dont think he is doing himself any favours by sucking up to Matthew/Toya

[ImBatman]

Nah, she is a catty vile woman who has to put other people down to feel better about herself. Get her out ASAP!

[Niamh.]

No.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

No.
She is a nasty bitch. The things she has said about Jale have been awful.
Her tears last night made be so angry.
Crying because she thinks she has been treated badly, when she has done that to others.

I dont think Jale has any problem standing up for herself anyway but youre right, Helen has been vile to her

Trouble is, now she's being vile to the people I hate, Im loving it

OMG IM A FLIP FLOPPER!!

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by ImBatman

Nah, she is a catty vile woman who has to put other people down to feel better about herself. Get her out ASAP!

But you cant get her out, thats the point!

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

Listen guys, Im ready for the backlash, but Im thinking that if helen wasnt there for the duration, we wouldnt have someone to hate on so much

Toya is a non-entity, she's a flip flopper and because she keeps talking about how intellectual she is, just comes across as a stupid gobby bird who now thinks she has said too much and is 'doing a pauline' by staying out of the rows

Helen, on the other hand, has a drink and just cant help herself, there is NO FILTER, which makes for a great HM

Im actually starting to think giving her the pass was the best contribution the nasty Pauline gave the viewers

I've always liked her, if she didn't have a pass to the final she'd be long gone by now, so for that i'm grateful. She is like a thorn in their side. How they are going to handle it if this other girl goes in though is beyond me. They may as well put a boxing ring in the garden. It is going to get seriously ugly.

[Ammi]

..no, although I did have some empathy with her because I do think she was already 'judged' by the public to a certain extent when she went in, she's one of those people who only seems to thrive on making others feel miserable about themselves and can't ever see anything but negatives in any situation or anybody...

[Northern Monkey]

Excellent HM for sure.

[Marsh.]

She doesn't seem to learn from her mistakes.

Even the simple one in the house of Helen + Alcohol not being a very good idea and yet she continues to Drink and Argue.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..no, although I did have some empathy with her because I do think she was already 'judged' by the public to a certain extent when she went in, she's one of those people who only seems to thrive on making others feel miserable about themselves and can't ever see anything but negatives in any situation or anybody...

I don't know, I think people quite liked her on night one, she seemed bubbly and "normal" down to earth type............then her real personality shone through

[ImBatman]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

But you cant get her out, thats the point!

It wont be long before her pass is revoked trust me. If Jenny goes in on friday the pass has done its job. Keeping her place nice and cosy until Jenny arrives. After she goes in there is no point to her keeping it BB will see this and take it away from her!

[Marsh.]

Yeah, even knowing who she was I thought she seemed nice enough on launch.

Then she started drinking.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ImBatman

It wont be long before her pass is revoked trust me. If Jenny goes in on friday the pass has done its job. Keeping her place nice and cosy until Jenny arrives. After she goes in there is no point to her keeping it BB will see this and take it away from her!

Giving her the pass to keep her in ready for Jenny is under the assumption that Pauline is in on it?

[flamingGalah!]

Erm, let me think for a second....







....

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't know, I think people quite liked her on night one, she seemed bubbly and "normal" down to earth type............then her real personality shone through

..yeah I do find that whole thing interesting as well, that maybe she would have been different if she hadn't got the pass and at first I thought at first that maybe she was just being how she is to get airtime because she knows being the 'villain' will get her that and maybe more interviews etc afterwards so that maybe her awfulness was a bit contrived...I over-think things but I don't really care whether it's an 'act' or not now because the result is the same, she really dumbs people down and is just generally obnoxious...

[ImBatman]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Giving her the pass to keep her in ready for Jenny is under the assumption that Pauline is in on it?

Could well be, ANYONE who thinks the producers dont have a plan or influence peoples decisions are crazy

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ImBatman

Could well be, ANYONE who thinks the producers dont have a plan or influence peoples decisions are crazy

So all the housemates are playing along? Yeah, ok then.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Verbal

I've always liked her, if she didn't have a pass to the final she'd be long gone by now, so for that i'm grateful. She is like a thorn in their side. How they are going to handle it if this other girl goes in though is beyond me. They may as well put a boxing ring in the garden. It is going to get seriously ugly.

I dont think this other girl is going in at all. There has been no comment from BB just a lot of crap headlines from the Daily Star, who make up their stories as they go along

there is never any real correlation between their headlines and the real story

[Crimson Dynamo]

I feel a bit sorry for her that she had so bang such a poor international player

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by ImBatman

It wont be long before her pass is revoked trust me. If Jenny goes in on friday the pass has done its job. Keeping her place nice and cosy until Jenny arrives. After she goes in there is no point to her keeping it BB will see this and take it away from her!

The fact that Jenny has given an interview to the Daily Star yesterday suggests that the story of her going in, was like most of the stories in the Daily Star......a load of old boll.cks

would love it if she did but I think producers would be accused of actually TRYING to start a fight and they dont want that

[ImBatman]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So all the housemates are playing along? Yeah, ok then.

I guess that is one reason WHY we dont have LF so they can pick and choose what they want us to see. So we can form our opinions and perceptions on the housemates the way they want. Hell this is the way reality TV works. It is the same in BBUS and BBCAN. We dont see what goes on in the DDR we only see a little part of this.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I feel a bit sorry for her that she had so bang such a poor international player

I know, can you imagine being told by your agency (or whatever) that you are going to have sex with a footballer and then turning up to find Rooney there??

Its like eating into a bar of chocolate and finding its really faeces!!