[Creggle]

Yet I'm seeing alot of hate for him in recent topics, like him not arguing against being saved!? Wth, with 2 surprise outcomes (Matthew and Jale) why on Earth should he have to sit there against Steven when the household have no idea what's going to happen, when he's been up every single week more or less. Enough with the Ash hate, if he wasn't close to Helen he'd have none of this, and it's his choice who he is friends (or more) with.

[Futaba]

Oh well. I still don't like him.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Futaba

Oh well. I still don't like him.

The housemates keep putting him up so he ain't popular in the house too.

[Macie Lightfoot]

The thing that turns me off is the self-entitlement, reminding everyone constantly that he's been nominated so many times and just wants a break (when one of those weeks involved everyone being up and this week he was just saved - he hasn't been properly nominated since Week 4.) Christopher has been nominated more times than him and has taken it extremely well and doesn't insist upon himself whatsoever. That's much more admirable and likable.

[Josy]

It's ridiculous to say he's a bad guy for not protesting about being saved, who wouldn't want to be saved after facing eviction so much

[jet]

Originally Posted by Josy

It's ridiculous to say he's a bad guy for not protesting about being saved, who wouldn't want to be saved after facing eviction so much

Steven, Zoe and Pav all said they didn't mind. Ash was the only one who said nothing. He should have been a gentleman and said Zoe should be saved, but he's no gentleman anyway as he is Helen's bestie. That tells me all I need to know about the kind of person he is.

[Futaba]

Originally Posted by jet

Steven, Zoe and Pav all said they didn't mind. Ash was the only one who said nothing. He should have been a gentleman and said Zoe should be saved, but he's no gentleman anyway as he is Helen's bestie. That tells me all I need to know about the kind of person he is.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by jet

Steven, Zoe and Pav all said they didn't mind. Ash was the only one who said nothing. He should have been a gentleman and said Zoe should be saved, but he's no gentleman anyway as he is Helen's bestie. That tells me all I need to know about the kind of person he is.

So he should protest for the irritant that is Zoe to stay because she's a woman? That's very sexist tbh and Astro Ash will be a hero and get to the final for all of us entertainer lovers out there.

[jet]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

So he should protest for the irritant that is Zoe to stay because she's a woman? That's very sexist tbh and Astro Ash will be a hero and get to the final for all of us entertainer lovers out there.

You are obviously taking the piss.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by jet

You are obviously taking the piss.

The hero part is a joke yes, but away from Helen and Ashleigh who else would you say is more entertaining than Ash that's left in the house?

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by jet

Steven, Zoe and Pav all said they didn't mind. Ash was the only one who said nothing. He should have been a gentleman and said Zoe should be saved, but he's no gentleman anyway as he is Helen's bestie. That tells me all I need to know about the kind of person he is.

He asked Zoe and Pav if they were ok with that and they both said YES

As for being a gentleman, he has been the perfect gent all the way through and is on course for a win here!!

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

He asked Zoe and Pav if they were ok with that and they both said YES

As for being a gentleman, he has been the perfect gent all the way through and is on course for a win here!!

Well they are hardly going to say NO are they???

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jet

Steven, Zoe and Pav all said they didn't mind. Ash was the only one who said nothing. He should have been a gentleman and said Zoe should be saved, but he's no gentleman anyway as he is Helen's bestie. That tells me all I need to know about the kind of person he is.

They are all in to win,why would anyone be a gentleman and put himself in the firing line,and hand it to a newbie aswell?!!!

[Forgetmenot]

Originally Posted by jet

Steven, Zoe and Pav all said they didn't mind. Ash was the only one who said nothing. He should have been a gentleman and said Zoe should be saved, but he's no gentleman anyway as he is Helen's bestie. That tells me all I need to know about the kind of person he is.

Helen is quite decent person zi think. She got off to a bad start, yes, but stress and emotions are strong things to deal with. She has sorted few things now and really stepped up tonight, so good on her. I find her rather truthful myself

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Forgetmenot

Helen is quite decent person zi think. She got off to a bad start, yes, but stress and emotions are strong things to deal with. She has sorted few things now and really stepped up tonight, so good on her. I find her rather truthful myself

Good observation , I agree with what you say above. She is also one of the more truthful in there overall too.

[LukeB]

Least ash saved himself in a fair way

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by iiamlukee

Least ash saved himself in a fair way

it was actually Steven that suggested him, Ash would never have said his own name!

[Josy]

Um it's a game show with a prize at the end, no would protest against being saved, regardless of gender...

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Josy

Um it's a game show with a prize at the end, no would protest against being saved, regardless of gender...

Game show where you have to try and be liked to get further (not this bb though) bb just does this and that

[Josy]

Originally Posted by iiamlukee

Game show where you have to try and be liked to get further (not this bb though) bb just does this and that

And what better way of getting further than avoiding an eviction?

Ash has a few people in the house that like him, even Ashleigh and Chris said they never wanted to put him up this time (apparently) but it's not even as if he put himself forward to be saved, Steven brought it up and he just basically stood there, Zoe and Pav agreed. Nothing wrong with that IMO.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Josy

And what better way of getting further than avoiding an eviction?

Ash has a few people in the house that like him, even Ashleigh and Chris said they never wanted to put him up this time (apparently) but it's not even as if he put himself forward to be saved, Steven brought it up and he just basically stood there, Zoe and Pav agreed. Nothing wrong with that IMO.

I was being postive about ash saving himself he did it on a group vote which means not pissingg off anyone

[Creggle]

Amazed Steven didn't save himself, I bet the producers were going insane when they chose Ash, that's the 3rd blatant manipulation that the housemates have foiled in a row.

[Crocodile Tears]

I think most people feel they saw the *real* Ash ["maggot/slut-buckets/tear-u-apart" Ash] in the first couple of weeks.
Veiwers probably feel he's been masking his nastiness since he heard the boos.

[jegmeister]

some people on here may have goldfish-like memories but fortunately some of us remember what this slimey nasty piece of work was really like in his first few weeks in the house. That is the real Ash not this deliberately contrived version which is on its guard from public opinion targeting him once again.

[jet]

Originally Posted by jegmeister

some people on here may have goldfish-like memories but fortunately some of us remember what this slimey nasty piece of work was really like in his first few weeks in the house. That is the real Ash not this deliberately contrived version which is on its guard from public opinion targeting him once again.

Yes, and the same with Helen too. They have both toned down the nastiness, though Ash has had more success apparently. He's playing the game but still hasn't the personality to take the win. He's arrogant and as dull as dish water.