[JoshBB]

..who would you vote for? Please base this on which candidate you feel would be best as prime minister, with chance of election & party bias not included. You can include reasons if you'd like to, I would be interested to know.

This may help for those not knowing a lot about the contenders (I didn't til I did some research) - http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...corbyn-kendall

My preferences (since Labour uses the instant run-off method)

1) Jeremy Corbyn - talented public speaker, is great with uniting people for the same cause, policies are common sense, political experience, always been on the right side of history (eg. his arrest for protesting apartheid in 1980s). I also feel he isn't ignoring young people as most politicians are, and he's also very anti-establishment. EU reform is also something I look forward to. Also trust that he will tackle tax avoidance at last, and raise tax for big companies while lowering it for newer smaller ones.

2) Andy Burnham - slightly too new-labour for me, although he does promise renationalisation of railways which is much needed. He seems to have regretted abstaining from voting against austerity which is good, I hope he remembers Labour's values in the future.

3) Yvette Cooper - I am not really a big fan. Yvette is wayy too politiciany for me, and the way she imitates populist demands even though it is against her own principles angers me. Particularly how she defended tax credit cuts at one point and how she imitated the tories' immigration policies.

4) Liz Kendall - I mean, come on... she stole UKIP's "australian point-style immigration system" and quoted it word-for-word in the hustings. She speaks better than Burnham & Yvette at times, but her policies are not good. Everything is pretty much a conservative manifesto watered down. She would be a nightmare for Labour imo.

[Will.]

Is the female one still in the running?

[Pete.]

1) Jeremy
2) Liz
3) Andy
4) Yvette

[arista]

Jeremy Corbyn


The Voting is now Closed
its just going through the the Mega lists for JC.


One left winger Jeremy Hardy (comedian) [ his last party was Green]
voted for JC
but Harmen blocked his vote?

[Daniel-X]

1. Jeremy
2. Andy
3. Yvette
4. Liz

[Daniel-X]

Originally Posted by Will1999

Is the female one still in the running?

Liz Kendall and Yvette Cooper are in the running.

[Crimson Dynamo]

To be honest they are all utterly appalling

But at least Corbyn is not a total pandering pc gorn mad lilly livered metrosexual wet weekend loser like the other 3

What labour need is Nicola Sturgeon

it is that simple

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

To be honest they are all utterly appalling

But at least Corbyn is not a total pandering pc gorn mad lilly livered metrosexual wet weekend loser like the other 3

What labour need is Nicola Sturgeon

it is that simple

They made a big mistake refusing coalition with SNP, and especially when Miliband said "I'd rather not be in power".. which probably wins the most idiotic statement of the century award.

Corbyn is really something different though which is whats needed

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by arista

Jeremy Corbyn


The Voting is now Closed
its just going through the the Mega lists for JC.


One left winger Jeremy Hardy (comedian) [ his last party was Green]
voted for JC
but Harmen blocked his vote?

Wouldn't be surprised. I literally hate her so much since she became acting leader, there are some conservatives & UKIPs I like more than her..

[hijaxers]

Deffo Jeremy Corbyn - I like the cut of his jib

[joeysteele]

I can vote in this but have yet to decide.
I will watch them on the 3rd Sept in a debate being held then and make my mind up.

Andy Burnham is still my first choice,Yvette and Jeremy will be my 2nd and 3rd,(not sure which way round), preferences if I decide to vote for Andy.
Only Liz Kendall do I dismiss.

For some reason I can actually see a pretty good team coming from Jeremy Corbyn and Andy Burnham,of course Andy cannot be his Deputy as an election is going on for that too.
However Andy still in his shadow cabinet or him in Andys,then I can see some success coming about there.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Will1999

Is the female one still in the running?

For some reason, they let two whole females into the leadership race. Bloody liberals.

(Corbyn)

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I can vote in this but have yet to decide.
I will watch them on the 3rd Sept in a debate being held then and make my mind up.

Andy Burnham is still my first choice,Yvette and Jeremy will be my 2nd and 3rd,(not sure which way round), preferences if I decide to vote for Andy.
Only Liz Kendall do I dismiss.

For some reason I can actually see a pretty good team coming from Jeremy Corbyn and Andy Burnham,of course Andy cannot be his Deputy as an election is going on for that too.
However Andy still in his shadow cabinet or him in Andys,then I can see some success coming about there.

I've read your posts Joey and I personally wouldn't even put a preference for Yvette. She has no backbone at all. I don't trust her, personally. It's your vote of course and you can do as you wish with it but I don't think she is alligned to your beliefs as much as Andy/Corbyn would be.

[JoshBB]

Also my dad just voted with his online ballot. He did first preference Corbyn and filled in no others, he only wants corbyn.

For deputy leadership he wasn't as excited about candidates but he put Angela Eagle first, and then Tom Watson.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

I've read your posts Joey and I personally wouldn't even put a preference for Yvette. She has no backbone at all. I don't trust her, personally. It's your vote of course and you can do as you wish with it but I don't think she is alligned to your beliefs as much as Andy/Corbyn would be.

I agree with what you say,I am more likely to go for Andy and Jeremy.

[arista]

2020

[Brother Leon]

Corbyn simply, because it would be nice to see someone mix it up abit

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by arista

2020

i am actually obsessed with him lol

last I hear, burnham decided he wants to scrap tuition fees (and replace it with graduate tax) in an attempt to imitate Corbyn's hype

[MTVN]

Kendall is the one who could broaden the party's appeal the most and reclaim the centre ground but Cooper is the one who is most capable of reconciling the broad church that is Labour and taking forward a united party; she has the right combination of experience, temperament and intelligence.

Have been very unimpressed by Burnham, has reeked of desperation in flip flopping so frequently on his principles. Not gonna bother getting into Corbyn but he wouldn't make my ballot if I was a Labour member.

[BB4fan]

Corbyn's an apologist for the IRA.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by BB4fan

Corbyn's an apologist for the IRA.

No he isn't. He said that one thing that Blair did right was negotiating with the IRA, which sounds bad, but if it never happened then we probably would still have their bombs going off today.

I believe he said something in an interview like: "In politics you have to make agreements with people you profoundly disagree with."

You can have different opinions on which candidate you like best, but seriously making things up is really pathetic and to suggest Corbyn is some form of terrorist associate is completely inappropriate.

[Northern Monkey]

Burnham for me.I actually agree with some of Corbyns ideas but fear he would scrap Trident,Leave Nato,Leave the country pretty much defenceless and not put any controls on immigration.The safety of a country's citizens should come first for me.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Burnham for me.I actually agree with some of Corbyns ideas but fear he would scrap Trident,Leave Nato,Leave the country pretty much defenceless and not put any controls on immigration.The safety of a country's citizens should come first for me.

I think he said somewhere that he would divest trident funds into extra border security, police, and an army that "actually defends" as he put it.

I mean, nuclear weapons aren't really defense. They're offense (in my opinion at least) since if your country is invaded where would you fire them? At yourselves? At the country that is invading? What's the use when they already got here?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

I think he said somewhere that he would divest trident funds into extra border security, police, and an army that "actually defends" as he put it.

I mean, nuclear weapons aren't really defense. They're offense (in my opinion at least) since if your country is invaded where would you fire them? At yourselves? At the country that is invading? What's the use when they already got here?

Nukes help to prevent war.The UK and France are the only European countries to have them.They imo are one reason we are unlikely to be invaded.If it was'nt for nukes there's a chance we would be part of the Soviet Union now.Mutually Assured Destruction has probably stopped us having a third world war by now.

[Denver]

Im not happy with this list but id have to choose Liz Kendall