[LukeB]

He said this about the knickers

[MrWong]

He also, without a hint of irony said to Tiff 'I would never try to humiliate a young girl' when she confronted him about knickergate.

[Rustic bauble]

He completely denied it....he instigated the whole thing...LIAR!

PLAY IT...TO TIFF...

[kirklancaster]

These are EXACTLY the same tactics the odious rodent employed when, BEHIND HER BACK as she sat alone in the garden, HE instigated most of the trouble against Tiffany and implored the others listening in the group to ostracize her and isolate her, only to then go to Tiffany and say; "THEY have said" and "THEY have decided", and THEY asked me to tell you".

They are ALL a bunch of two-faced, spineless and spoilt cry-babies, but King Rat John is THE Master Manipulator. Queen Gemma is his female counterpart.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

These are EXACTLY the same tactics the odious rodent employed when, BEHIND HER BACK as she sat alone in the garden, HE instigated most of the trouble against Tiffany and implored the others listening in the group to ostracize her and isolate her, only to then go to Tiffany and say; "THEY have said" and "THEY have decided", and THEY asked me to tell you".

They are ALL a bunch of two-faced, spineless and spoilt cry-babies, but King Rat John is THE Master Manipulator. Queen Gemma is his female counterpart.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

These are EXACTLY the same tactics the odious rodent employed when, BEHIND HER BACK as she sat alone in the garden, HE instigated most of the trouble against Tiffany and implored the others listening in the group to ostracize her and isolate her, only to then go to Tiffany and say; "THEY have said" and "THEY have decided", and THEY asked me to tell you".

They are ALL a bunch of two-faced, spineless and spoilt cry-babies, but King Rat John is THE Master Manipulator. Queen Gemma is his female counterpart.

Spoiler:

Good job I like you

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Spoiler:

Good job I like you

And it's a bloody good job I KNOW you do - or I'd be for my life

[Northern Monkey]

She's a filthbag but John was loving being pack leader there.Got him abit of the attention he so badly craves.

[jennyjuniper]

Chris, Darren or Scotty to win. None of the three have really been active in the house, but those three are the least offensive of all the inmates.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LukeB

He said this about the knickers

We know,its old news,move on We'll execute him when he comes out it's all been done to death,try another angle.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

We know,its old news,move on We'll execute him when he comes out it's all been done to death,try another angle.

What kind of mod?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

We know,its old news,move on We'll execute him when he comes out it's all been done to death,try another angle.

Well sorry but I would too, this could have been a health hazard too and anyone touched them mistakenly.
David was ill in the house for one.

Nothing soiled in any way should be left anywhere were anyone else can come across them.
There are few general things that I would make a great fuss about but this whether it be womens or mens effects is one of them.

Stephanie when they first asked,denied they were hers, had she gone out and took responsibility right off, there may have been no reason for the greater fuss that came about.

Name and shame indeed should have been done,she should be thoroughly ashamed and in fact disgusted with herself.
Even moreso to let Jeremy go and wash them, all she had to do was wash then when she changed clothing.

This is all her fault and no one elses.
Maybe that naming and shaming will make her think before ever doing such a filthy and disgusting thing again where other people are.
Had I ever found anything like that,I'd have been furious with the eventually identified culprit.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well sorry but I would too, this could have been a health hazard too and anyone touched them mistakenly.
David was ill in the house for one.

Nothing soiled in any way should be left anywhere were anyone else can come across them.
There are few general things that I would make a great fuss about but this whether it be womens or mens effects is one of them.

Stephanie when they first asked,denied they were hers, had she gone out and took responsibility right off, there may have been no reason for the greater fuss that came about.

Name and shame indeed should have been done,she should be thoroughly ashamed and in fact disgusted with herself.
Even moreso to let Jeremy go and wash them, all she had to do was wash then when she changed clothing.

This is all her fault and no one elses.
Maybe that naming and shaming will make her think before ever doing such a filthy and disgusting thing again where other people are.
Had I ever found anything like that,I'd have been furious with the eventually identified culprit.

The voice of reason as usual Joey.

[wendywillow]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well sorry but I would too, this could have been a health hazard too and anyone touched them mistakenly.
David was ill in the house for one.

Nothing soiled in any way should be left anywhere were anyone else can come across them.
There are few general things that I would make a great fuss about but this whether it be womens or mens effects is one of them.

Stephanie when they first asked,denied they were hers, had she gone out and took responsibility right off, there may have been no reason for the greater fuss that came about.

Name and shame indeed should have been done,she should be thoroughly ashamed and in fact disgusted with herself.
Even moreso to let Jeremy go and wash them, all she had to do was wash then when she changed clothing.

This is all her fault and no one elses.
Maybe that naming and shaming will make her think before ever doing such a filthy and disgusting thing again where other people are.
Had I ever found anything like that,I'd have been furious with the eventually identified culprit.

oh come on, first of all they all sleep in one room so you cant not see everyones clothes, and used panties are a health hazard?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by wendywillow

oh come on, first of all they all sleep in one room so you cant not see everyones clothes, and used panties are a health hazard?

I didn't say they actually were a health hazard I said they could have been, depending on what was in them.

However if you actually think it nice and right for anyone, man or woman to take off dirty underwear and even if soiled in any way, to just leave them somewhere for days,where other people can maybe find them or pick them up, rather than get them washed right off, well that's your affair.

I think it a disgusting and a filthy thing for Steph to have done and would say the same no matter as to whatever sex did it.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well sorry but I would too, this could have been a health hazard too and anyone touched them mistakenly.
David was ill in the house for one.

Nothing soiled in any way should be left anywhere were anyone else can come across them.
There are few general things that I would make a great fuss about but this whether it be womens or mens effects is one of them.

Stephanie when they first asked,denied they were hers, had she gone out and took responsibility right off, there may have been no reason for the greater fuss that came about.

Name and shame indeed should have been done,she should be thoroughly ashamed and in fact disgusted with herself.
Even moreso to let Jeremy go and wash them, all she had to do was wash then when she changed clothing.

This is all her fault and no one elses.
Maybe that naming and shaming will make her think before ever doing such a filthy and disgusting thing again where other people are.
Had I ever found anything like that,I'd have been furious with the eventually identified culprit.

Also what is with Jeremy wanting to wash her dirty panties? Some sort of fetish?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Also what is with Jeremy wanting to wash her dirty panties? Some sort of fetish?

I agree,Even worse Steph letting him, for goodness sake.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

We know,its old news,move on We'll execute him when he comes out it's all been done to death,try another angle.

it's not old news at all, i've only just watched it and it's recent

[wendywillow]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

We know,its old news,move on We'll execute him when he comes out it's all been done to death,try another angle.

well some were declaring John's complete innocence yesterday when tiff accused him....when the opposite is found to be true it should be swept under the rug?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by wendywillow

well some were declaring John's complete innocence yesterday when tiff accused him....when the opposite is found to be true it should be swept under the rug?

That was only because people were accusing him of hanging them somewhere,which he didn't.they were on the table,and yes John was part of it but not the sole culprit.its not been swept under the rug its been done to death,not everyone will agree on this so its just going round and round

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That was only because people were accusing him of hanging them somewhere,which he didn't.they were on the table,and yes John was part of it but not the sole culprit.its not been swept under the rug its been done to death,not everyone will agree on this so its just going round and round

I didn't see or hear Christopher or Darren not wanting to name and shame the cuprit either Kazanne.
All 3 of them, John, Christopher and Darren were the ones who came across the soiled effects.

I cannot stand Gemma but had they been hers, Steph would have yelled it from the rooftop I would say.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I didn't see or hear Christopher or Darren not wanting to name and shame the cuprit either Kazanne.
All 3 of them, John, Christopher and Darren were the ones who came across the soiled effects.

I cannot stand Gemma but had they been hers, Steph would have yelled it from the rooftop I would say.

Yes Joey good point, if Darren and Chris didn't agree they would have said something,but wait ........................they all flock to John according to NY Tiff, so it's his fault alone.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I didn't see or hear Christopher or Darren not wanting to name and shame the cuprit either Kazanne.
All 3 of them, John, Christopher and Darren were the ones who came across the soiled effects.

I cannot stand Gemma but had they been hers, Steph would have yelled it from the rooftop I would say.

Well of course not. It cut to another scene.

We saw the guys ewwwww reaction. We saw them laugh when John called it pigeon ****. We saw Christopher try to cover the knickers. We saw John stop him. We then heard John saying the owner should be named and shamed.

Just because we didn't see Darren/Christopher say the owner shouldn't be named doesn't mean they agreed. It means we don't know and isn't any kind of defence.

[lime]

I had no idea what he and Tiffany were talking about on LF but I do remember him looking at Tiff and saying how wrong she was to think he was the type of person to humiliate a young girl.....really disappoited with his name and shame comment.

[tanussa]

yes john used those words but all other HMs were slagging steph off to varying degrees. john said that also before it was known whos knickers they were. the 3 girls were slagging steph off abt knickergate. they were the worst culprits so why is john gettin all the stick for simply sayin 'name & shame'. it is disgusting anyway to leave dirty underwear lying around for all to see & on a table were someone might put a plate down with food on. thats why he said that, its disgusting leaving soiled knickers on a table for all to see, think hygiene