[Kizzy]

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I'd rather have IBS

[bots]

I don't like IDS, but i don't agree with mob rule either.

[joeysteele]

Just what he deserves, I wouldn't want to be within sight of him.
It is a disgrace this heartless vile failure that the Conservatives dumped as leader even before he could lead them into a election, has ever been given power over the lives, livelihoods and incomes of the most vulnerable in UK society.

[Crimson Dynamo]

If it can help couples have a baby I cant see why oiks would try and shout at it?


bloody lefties

[Crimson Dynamo]

If it can help couples have a baby I cant see why oiks would try and shout at it?


bloody lefties

[King Gizzard]

Usually I'm not down with this sort of thing but he's a massive **** so meh

[MTVN]

IDS just chilling in the back seat reading the paper

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Nathan

Usually I'm not down with this sort of thing but he's a massive **** so meh

Pretty much this

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I don't like IDS, but i don't agree with mob rule either.

Good job it's not anything like that then, just a handful of people expressing how they feel about IDS, mind you that is how it would be reported in some rags, well done for preempting that.

[Johnnyuk123]

The Tories are still in charge so all is well for the UK recovery from the mess that the labour party left us in.

[Vicky.]

Yup. I'm alright jack. Whats the deaths of a few disabled to anyone eh.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yup. I'm alright jack. Whats the deaths of a few disabled to anyone eh.

They mean nothing at all to IDS or this PM either.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Good job it's not anything like that then, just a handful of people expressing how they feel about IDS, mind you that is how it would be reported in some rags, well done for preempting that.

it was an undemocratic mob

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it was an undemocratic mob

Is is undemocratic to voice your opinion to an elected official?
*clue- It isn't*

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Is is undemocratic to voice your opinion to an elected official?
*clue- It isn't*

It seems it appears to be if they are demonstrating or shouting anything against a Conservative politician Kizzy.

My guess,only a guess mind you, is that if these had maybe been moaning at Corbyn as to say as an example Trident, they would be classed as being intelligent and right.

A good thing I wasn't anywhere near him, I would possibly even have got arrested for what I would say to him for his disgraceful and obscene policies against the sick and disabled which actually are getting worse.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Is is undemocratic to voice your opinion to an elected official?
*clue- It isn't*

It is not right. I remember people on here saying it was fine to hound Nigel Farage and his daughters, something I also did not support

Its not that I am protecting the Tories - again a usual, predictable put down. I just have principles on the correct way to voice discontent - through the ballot box

Its distasteful the way posters behave on here

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

It is not right. I remember people on here saying it was fine to hound Nigel Farage and his daughters, something I also did not support

Its not that I am protecting the Tories - again a usual, predictable put down. I just have principles on the correct way to voice discontent - through the ballot box

Its distasteful the way posters behave on here

It's only SOME posters BOTS. I will not risk a ban by expounding, but the irrefutable truth which illustrates the sheer hypocrisy of SOME posts is in black and white on various past threads - the Farage one which you mention being one.

The heckling by disgruntled members of the public of politicians who they disagree with, is traditional and historically accepted, but here - as in the Farage incident - these lowbrows were breaking a number of laws by physically attempting to block in IDS's car and prevent it from leaving among other things.

Let's be honest here; from spraying grafitti on war memorials to threatening Nigel Farage and his children and damaging his property, to this incident, it does not matter to some people just as long as the targets under attack are deemed by them to be 'Right Wing' targets.

In these types of ugly, anti-Democratic incidents, blind hatred of the Tories or other parties not 'Left Wing', overides logic, common decency, and honesty, and the most absurdly flawed and skewed reasoning is used to try to directly and openly justify such or acts, or mitigate them by indirect means.

I do not like IDS and I did not vote Tory, and my stance on these type of incidents would be exactly the same had it been Jeremy Corbyn who was the victim.

Has there been similar attacks by 'Right Wing' factions on Corbyn which are similar to this? Or attacks by 'Right Wing' factions on his family members such as in the Farage incident?

No?

This in itself speaks volumes about the abhorrent extremist 'Left wing' in this country.

If it is deemed all right by some on here that yet another mob of anti-Democratic lefties can break the law, then let's take that inane logic a step or two further when British Law is so readily discarded:

If it is perfectly acceptable for Marxist 'Rag, Tag, and Bobtails' to try to unlawfully detain IDS against his will by preventing his car from leaving, then it would be just as perfectly acceptable for IDS's bodyguards - or members of the public for that matter - to, violently if need be, remove the mob to allow IDS the right to leave.

If a few of these undemocratic loonies receive a cracked skull or two or a broken nose in the process, then so what - all Law has been discarded.

And THIS is the problem when our Law is so readily brushed aside by these idiots and their supporters - WHERE does it end?

If one law can be ignored, then why not others? Is one law more valid than another? Should the interpretation of our Laws ever be at the mercy of anti-Democratic mobs?

As you so RIGHTLY say BOTS, we have a democratic process for expressing discontent with a political party, but more than that, we have a time-honoured tradition outside of that process for peaceful protest including heckling and jeering, and this being the GREAT DEMOCRACY it is, such peaceful protesters can exercise that tradition safe from being murdered or brutalised by the state - as in other countries.

These mobs are NOT peaceful protesters though - are they. Well, at least some of us honestly recognise that.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Is is undemocratic to voice your opinion to an elected official?
*clue- It isn't*

If I was on the Headrow in Leeds and you were walking towards me, and I decided that I did not like your hair colour or the way you dress, have I a right to convert my dislike into hatred and scream obscenities at you?

More than that, having screamed obscenities at you, have I then a right to try to physically prevent you from going about your LAWFUL business by blocking your path and unlawfully detaining you?

Do not confuse anarchy - in any of its ugly forms - with peaceful protest.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

It is not right. I remember people on here saying it was fine to hound Nigel Farage and his daughters, something I also did not support

Its not that I am protecting the Tories - again a usual, predictable put down. I just have principles on the correct way to voice discontent - through the ballot box

Its distasteful the way posters behave on here

Can you just clarify that you are not accusing me of putting you down here....because I haven't.
It is a different topic, of course the situation with Farage was wrong as he was with his family I wouldn't condone that.
I feel in this instance the public were justified in voicing their feelings.

If that is your personal stance then fair play, however I still can't accept that to criticise a minister in a govt you may, or may not have voted in could be described as undemocratic.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

If I was on the Headrow in Leeds and you were walking towards me, and I decided that I did not like your hair colour or the way you dress, have I a right to convert my dislike into hatred and scream obscenities at you?

More than that, having screamed obscenities at you, have I then a right to try to physically prevent you from going about your LAWFUL business by blocking your path and unlawfully detaining you?

Do not confuse anarchy - in any of its ugly forms - with peaceful protest.

That analogy is in no way representative of what is happening here.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It seems it appears to be if they are demonstrating or shouting anything against a Conservative politician Kizzy.

My guess,only a guess mind you, is that if these had maybe been moaning at Corbyn as to say as an example Trident, they would be classed as being intelligent and right.

A good thing I wasn't anywhere near him, I would possibly even have got arrested for what I would say to him for his disgraceful and obscene policies against the sick and disabled which actually are getting worse.

Well that goes without saying, I feel that even though Corbyn was democratically elected he has had more flack in the last few weeks than the conservatives have in 10yrs!
We (for now) have a right to voice our individual opinions, those who oppose that right may rue the day.

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

IDS just chilling in the back seat reading the paper

Yes he must get the Work done


I will have to have another word with Dave
a Terrorist can mingle in that group.

In the future
The Road will be cleared fist


One Crazy Lady called IDS a Nazi
she must get back to finish her Education

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That analogy is in no way representative of what is happening here.

No? Well why don't you try explaining to me why it isn't?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

No? Well why don't you try explaining to me why it isn't?

I'm not a govt minister and my hair is not party policy.