[Niamh.]

in one of his first acts as President.........


Welcome to the 1920's


Donald Trump today banned the US government from giving funding to health groups that offer abortion counselling.

The President signed an order reinstating the “global gag rule”, which denies US foreign aid to groups who "perform or actively promote" terminations.

He was photographed signing the bill in the Oval Office, flanked by eight members of his staff, all of whom are men.

Vice President and anti-abortion campaigner Mike Pence, chief of staff Reince Priebus, his son-in-law Jared Kushner and top advisor and former far-right website owner Steve Bannon were all present.

There did not appear to be any women present for the signing.



http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/donal...ice=responsive

[joeysteele]

Shocking.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Shocking.

Not For USA


There will be some states that will
ignore this new rule

[the truth]

lets hope it allows more innocent harmless healthy babies the chance to live their lives

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

lets hope it allows more innocent harmless healthy babies the chance to live their lives

Innocent harmless healthy babies don't form until well into a pregnancy, before that it's alot of cells. Women should have control over their bodies not be told what they can and can't do by a bunch of old men

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Innocent harmless healthy babies don't form until well into a pregnancy, before that it's alot of cells. Women should have control over their bodies not be told what they can and can't do by a bunch of old men

Thats a sexist ageist post This is about the rights of babies to live a live, millions of them. If the mother is healthy and hasnt been raped then the rights of the unborn baby is more important than the mother

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

Thats a sexist ageist post This is about the rights of babies to live a live, millions of them. If the mother is healthy and hasnt been raped then the rights of the unborn baby is more important than the mother

So if you think abortion is murder, I mean truly believe that then why is it ok to murder a baby if the woman was raped?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So if you think abortion is murder, I mean truly believe that then why is it ok to murder a baby if the woman was raped?

That would be an ecumenical matter!!

In all seriousness, this man is truly on a path of destruction and we have a front row seat, I was discussing on another thread about long fought for rights, this man with one swipe of a pen has rendered those rights null and void.
The question is, what's next?...

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by the truth

Thats a sexist ageist post This is about the rights of babies to live a live, millions of them. If the mother is healthy and hasnt been raped then the rights of the unborn baby is more important than the mother

There's plenty more reasons than just the mother not being healthy or her being raped. Financial issues, educational issues, being abandoned/no help from father, the fact that otherwise women just fall back into that neanderthal cycle of pregnancy and childbirth etc. What about the millions of babies/children that have been born and are living without families already?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by the truth

lets hope it allows more innocent harmless healthy babies the chance to live their lives

Your acting as if the abortion is the beginning of the problem. Kind of like how a 5 year old might see it. Perhaps dive into a few minutes of critical thinking before your next post.
Rape is often a problem. Men need to stop that. Pay divide, health concerns, the list is honestly endless.
Each case is different, the problem never starts with abortion and blame should never be put there unless youre a 5 year old with a very basic outlook on the world around you. its the things that lead up to the abortion.
Donald Trump thinks this way because he hasnt had an education for 50 odd years. This is the first of many lessons to come about why we shouldnt put an underqualified man in charge, his competitors would have had experience in researching and debating this topic. The majority would come to the same conclusion that fits in with modern society. Donald did not.
Donald hasnt had an education in 50 years, a 5 year old has barely ever been educated. What is your excuse?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by the truth

lets hope it allows more innocent harmless healthy babies the chance to live their lives

Who is going to look after them - you think people can force the mothers to do that too.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

lets hope it allows more innocent harmless healthy babies the chance to live their lives

Yes, let's have more dysfunctional families on this overpopulated planet struggling to get by and being raised by parents who knew themselves they weren't capable of being parents but were forced into the decision to become one.

[Withano]

The guys just an idiot. Hes ancient, old fashioned, and honestly thick. And so is anybody who agrees this was a great move by a great man. One week in and America is fifty years back.
I was more than prepared to give him a chance, I cant help but think its going to get even worse, this man is stupid.

[y.winter]

In other news: MTV has renewed Teen Mom for four more seasons.

Good luck to America...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by y.winter

In other news: MTV has renewed Teen Mom for four more seasons.

Good luck to America...

Maybe he's got a stake in that show or something

[the truth]

Delighted tens of millions of innocent unborn babies will now get a better chance to live. Amazed some here don't see it from their point of view? Women and men, need to be better educated, need better support , need better access to contraception, need better advice and time and options such as having their baby fostered or adopted. Parents who have abortions for reasons other than rape, incest or health risks, often say they regret having their baby killed , for the rest of their lives. Give more support, more knowledge, more time, more education, more options, no doubt they would in many cases allow the baby a chance to live. Lets hope that is the end result of this move by trump. Put more money into supporting the babies being allowed to live. Thats the truly humane thing to do.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So if you think abortion is murder, I mean truly believe that then why is it ok to murder a baby if the woman was raped?

Originally Posted by the truth

delighted tens of millions of innocebt unborn babies will now get a better chance to live. amazed some hete don't see it from their point of view

ehem?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by the truth

Delighted tens of millions of innocent unborn babies will now get a better chance to live. Amazed some here don't see it from their point of view?

No they won't. Abortion is a huge problem in countries that don’t legally offer them. Back street abortions are not the way forward but if that’s the only affordable option, women will use them. Complications with back street abortions are; women die, the fetus survives but will normally be brain damaged and late abortions are much more common... the fetus really is a viable baby when its wrenched from the womb.

Women and men, need to be better educated, need better support , need better access to contraception, need better advice and time and options such as having their baby fostered or adopted.

Whilst I don't agree with using abortion as a contraceptive, you surely grasp that many thousands of contraceptive clinics will close down and so that much needed advice may not be available.

[Tom4784]

Any woman that supports Trump has no self respect.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Any woman that supports Trump has no self respect.

That statement is divisive and sexist and anti democratic 53% of white women voted trump, over 40% of all women voted trump. american women are smart, they know he will do an infinitely better job with the economy and trade which in turn will help everyone, men and women.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by the truth

That statement is divisive and sexist and anti democratic 53% of white women voted trump, over 40% of all women voted trump. american women are smart, they know he will do an infinitely better job with the economy and trade which in turn will help everyone, men and women.

Anyone that supports someone that is trying to strangle their rights is a ****ing idiot.

No self respecting woman should ever support Trump. It'd be like me supporting a candidate that wants to destroy LGBT rights.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Anyone that supports someone that is trying to strangle their rights is a ****ing idiot.

No self respecting woman should ever support Trump. It'd be like me supporting a candidate that wants to destroy LGBT rights.

your filthy language says more about you than anyone else.
Your abuse of 53% of all american women is a disgrace and totally anti democratic and your hate for trump is totally misplaced and built on your total misunderstanding of what he is about

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by the truth

your filthy language says more about you than anyone else.
Your abuse of 53% of all american women is a disgrace and totally anti democratic and your hate for trump is totally misplaced and built on your total misunderstanding of what he is about

I understand him perfectly, you're the one drinking the cool aid because you have a rampant victim complex and a worrying lack of empathy for anyone who isn't a straight white man.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by the truth

53% of white women voted trump

Originally Posted by the truth

53% of all american women

Funny how quickly 'facts' can change, isn't it?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Any woman that supports Trump has no self respect.

You do not get it.


Those Women that voted trump
want jobs for their husband's , again.


And the Jobs are Returning To America


Feck Mexico.


Life Is To Short.