[Northern Monkey]

Jamie told a woman in the house that she's only annoyed because it's her "time of the month" and she needs some Tampons?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Jamie told a woman in the house that she's only annoyed because it's her "time of the month" and she needs some Tampons?

If they were acting as irrationally.and nasty as Nicola yes.

[Northern Monkey]

I can guarantee meltdowns and cries of sexism and 'Scum' in here if he'd said that.However it's only cute loveable Jedward so it's ok?

[joeysteele]

She has said many really nasty things to Jedward all through.
She got a bit back that's all.

[Lstan]

Damned if you do damned if you dont.

[Jordan.]

Anyone who says yes is lying to themselves

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Anyone who says yes is lying to themselves

I said yes and I'm no liar Jordan.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I said yes and I'm no liar Jordan.

I somehow don't believe you'd agree with a sexist comment if it didn't come from your favourite housemate. Unless you would?

[joeysteele]

I said, if you bother to read posts properly.
If someone had said it in response to someone being as rotten.and nasty as Nicola has been to them, then yes.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I said, if you bother to read posts properly.
If someone had said it in response to someone being as rotten.and nasty as Nicola has been to them, then yes.

I read the post fine. However I thought you'd be better than to truly agree with sexist remarks regardless of the situation, I guess not.

[Withano]

Jamie is humourless and would never say this as a joke

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I read the post fine. However I thought you'd be better than to truly agree with sexist remarks regardless of the situation, I guess not.

If someone such as Nicola has been, was as nasty and vile as she has,frankly any respect for such a person could rightly.in my view,go out the window

I would not agree generally,I however see little to respect in Nicola at all.

Respect needs to be.earned a little too,not just be expected come what may.

[Lstan]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I somehow don't believe you'd agree with a sexist comment if it didn't come from your favourite housemate. Unless you would?

I know you are not asking me this but if i may-i didnt like the comment and jedward are my favourite housemates. However I have learnt not to complain about it on here because there is a huge ruckus ex: "oh you are being touchy/over reacting etc" hense my "damned if you do damned if you dont" comment, i just feel like no matter what you say on here in regards to sexism/racism as a WOC i'm going to get berated so personally i just keep my mouth shut on those things(thats not to say i dont support others saying their piece.)

My fav housemates are jedward and kim however that doesnt mean i have agreed with everything they say far from it, wrong is wrong no matter who's mouth it comes out, even when its your fav so i agree with you there. But on a similar note:

Originally Posted by Withano

Jamie is humourless and would never say this as a joke

^^^^
I think this is a reason that people are justifying it coming from jedward and not jamie. And the context-if jamie said it it could just come across as having a go, from context it came across as jedward having a joke not meaning anything severe by it however again i personally dont agree with it, but everyone has their take on it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

If they were acting as irrationally.and nasty as Nicola yes.

This tbh

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I can guarantee meltdowns and cries of sexism and 'Scum' in here if he'd said that.However it's only cute loveable Jedward so it's ok?

Totally agree ,thier mother had to be sedated last night, as she didn't know her baby boys knew what a tampon was, she's "very cross" and the boys are on the naughty step as soon as they go home

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lstan

I know you are not asking me this but if i may-i didnt like the comment and jedward are my favourite housemates. However I have learnt not to complain about it on here because there is a huge ruckus ex: "oh you are being touchy/over reacting etc" hense my "damned if you do damned if you dont" comment, i just feel like no matter what you say on here in regards to sexism/racism as a WOC i'm going to get berated so personally i just keep my mouth shut on those things(thats not to say i dont support others saying their piece.)

My fav housemates are jedward and kim however that doesnt mean i have agreed with everything they say far from it, wrong is wrong no matter who's mouth it comes out, even when its your fav so i agree with you there. But on a similar note:


^^^^
I think this is a reason that people are justifying it coming from jedward and not jamie. And the context-if jamie said it it could just come across as having a go, from context it came across as jedward having a joke not meaning anything severe by it however again i personally dont agree with it, but everyone has their take on it.

Do not let people make you feel this way, your opinion is as valid as everyone else's, I never,ever,ever run with the crowd, i have my favs and dislikes and speak my mind on both, I don't give a flying one who likes or dislikes what I say and neither should you

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Totally agree ,thier mother had to be sedated last night, as she didn't know her baby boys knew what a tampon was, she's "very cross" and the boys are on the naughty step as soon as they go home

[Toy Soldier]

No because he would almost certainly say it aggressively and without a hint of humor. That's what makes the difference... not "who" says something, but the general demeanor of the person who says it.

[joeysteele]

In show business there is an expression all publicity is good publicity.

So if it shows those who profess to hate them are watching them, and even raising them on a public forum as to almost every little thing they are doing and saying.
That's a likely positive really for Jedward and lets TV producers see that they get response when on TV.

[Liam-]

Would it ****, this forum and general social media would go into 'sexist scum!' mode immediately, it's only because it's 'cute' and 'harmless' Jedward that they seem to be getting away with it.

[Jordan.]

It isn't the first time they've made these type of comments to Nicola either. They asked her if it was "that time of the month?" during the superhero task too.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

It isn't the first time they've made these type of comments to Nicola either. They asked her if it was "that time of the month?" during the superhero task too.

Disgusting that sexist comments are being glossed over and ignored because of who's saying them to who.

[Toy Soldier]

Is it controversial / sexist to point out that it IS actually a thing, though? Like... it just is. I've been in the same relationship for 129 months and I can tell you for a straight up fact that if things get REALLY cray and there's no identifiable circumstances... ... ... ... 48 hours max. .

I know you're not "supposed to say it" but hormones exist, they are a real thing, and they have a very real effect on mood.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Is it controversial / sexist to point out that it IS actually a thing, though? Like... it just is. I've been in the same relationship for 129 months and I can tell you for a straight up fact that if things get REALLY cray and there's no identifiable circumstances... ... ... ... 48 hours max. .

I know you're not "supposed to say it" but hormones exist, they are a real thing, and they have a very real effect on mood.

It is true but it is annoying when men say it too But I have little sympathy for Nicola because she's so horrible to Jedward It's nothing compared to the hormone explosions while pregnant though although I used to cry more rather than bite someones head off then. I remember I cried because I lost a game of cards one time while i was pregnant

[Robodog]

I'd say a joke about tampons when Nicola is being patronising and angry is totally fair game in the context of a show which is designed to create as much upset and controversy for HMs as possible.

Think about it: Tasks are designed to cause upset, so are the outside tweets, public opinion polls, nom reveals, even the choice of HMs (such as putting Kim in on a 'mission' - all designed to cause as a massive stir

The silly jokes of Jedward, Biggins etc are nothing compared to the actual intended upset created by BB on a daily basis