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Old 07-06-2017, 05:42 PM #1
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Does he realise the polls are open until 10pm

I think they will, they got their arses kicked over Brexit

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I think they will, they got their arses kicked over Brexit
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I hope they do. But yes what a stupid thing to say.

I really do hope the Brexit vote inspires more youngsters to actually vote, whoever they vote for. They clearly thought their vote didn't matter, and it has been proven that it really does. Its them who is going to have to live with the Brexit vote, long after most leave voters have shuffled off the mortal coil

(My parents voted leave, so no thats not an insult or me wishing death on people or anything before I am reported...simply the sad truth)
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I'm getting one of my best friend's to vote for the first time tomorrow. I'm literally frantically texting people to make sure that they're voting
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Unfortunately, as twatty as he is, I think he's in part correct.

I don't know, I'm just not buying that the youth turnout is going to be significantly more than it has been before. Some of the closer polls like YouGov and Survation are utilising a weighting that implies a youth turnout of around 80%, that is absurd. I think it'll be higher than 2015 but lower than the EU referendum.

I hope I'm wrong of course, if there's anything that should inspire young people to come out and vote it's a) this manifesto, b) how battered we're going to be by the next Tory government and c) how we've all been shafted by Brexit. Anecdotally I've certainly noticed more political engagement on my social media from people I haven't seen talk politics before (as well as a couple of switches from UKIP to Labour), and indeed a huge pouring of outcry in wake of the result last year, but I just refuse to believe it's going to have any dramatic effect on turnout or the outcome. It's going to rain in many places tomorrow too, it's as if everything is against us

Actually I wouldn't be surprised if the overall turnout is down a percentage point or two, the appetite for this election just isn't there. The infamous Brenda from Bristol's vox pop probably sums up a lot of people's thoughts to be honest.
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Is it usually that late?
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I actually think the young are more active in politics than they ever have been through social media.
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I actually think the young are more active in politics than they ever have been through social media.
I agree, I do think 80% is a high estimate but from what I've seen, young people are more politically aware and active than ever. Out of my shop team of 8 people, age range 23 to 62, the only one other than me with any real interest at all in politics and who will engage in a political discussion, is the 23 year old. The rest, there's a mixture of simple disinterest, and long-earned apathy.

I think what he means is that he HOPES young voters won't get out of bed and vote, perhaps?
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I actually think the young are more active in politics than they ever have been through social media.
If the vote could be done online, there would be a near 100% voting rate among youngsters my brother said (he is one of these youngsters, at 20)

And hes possibly right. BUT...its a sad state of affairs really when something as important as voting was not done simply because its a bit of a walk to tick a box on an actual piece of paper instead of merely clicking a button :/
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If the vote could be done online, there would be a near 100% voting rate among youngsters my brother said (he is one of these youngsters, at 20)

And hes possibly right. BUT...its a sad state of affairs really when something as important as voting was not done simply because its a bit of a walk to tick a box on an actual piece of paper instead of merely clicking a button :/
I think there's a good point there though, the general location of voting centres has the potential to actually influence voting demographics? For example, the village I live in, the voting centre is right next to the primary school so pretty much every parent will vote because it's right there on the school run.

The town I work in, the voting centre is in the middle of town, which is somewhere most local young people frankly just don't go. The town centre is nothing but cafes, charity shops and (lolz) bookies. Older generations still float about the town but young people would be going more out if their way. Very few who live here actually work here either, so it's not like the centre is on the way to / from work or on lunch break.
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If the vote could be done online, there would be a near 100% voting rate among youngsters my brother said (he is one of these youngsters, at 20)

And hes possibly right. BUT...its a sad state of affairs really when something as important as voting was not done simply because its a bit of a walk to tick a box on an actual piece of paper instead of merely clicking a button :/
Maybe the young should get walking on those healthy young legs of theirs. If the oldies can do it then shame on them.

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I think there's a good point there though, the general location of voting centres has the potential to actually influence voting demographics? For example, the village I live in, the voting centre is right next to the primary school so pretty much every parent will vote because it's right there on the school run.

The town I work in, the voting centre is in the middle of town, which is somewhere most local young people frankly just don't go. The town centre is nothing but cafes, charity shops and (lolz) bookies. Older generations still float about the town but young people would be going more out if their way. Very few who live here actually work here either, so it's not like the centre is on the way to / from work or on lunch break.
That's why the polls are open from 7am until 10, that is the weakest excuse ever sorry, it's once in 5 years generally that they have "to go out of their way" the poor things

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That's why the polls are open from 7am until 10, that is the weakest excuse ever sorry, it's once in 5 years generally that they have "to go out of their way" the poor things
You're saying "the poor things" as though it's only the young... there's voter apathy across the board . Some people (of all ages) will be sure to vote, other people (of all ages) will only vote if they happen to be passing anyway. Not saying it's a good excuse, but it's the truth. And I was simply wondering if older people are more likely to be in the vicinity of their polling centre during their day-to-day business than younger people, as I have observed that young people are less likely to be in and around their local town centre.

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I think there's a good point there though, the general location of voting centres has the potential to actually influence voting demographics? For example, the village I live in, the voting centre is right next to the primary school so pretty much every parent will vote because it's right there on the school run.

The town I work in, the voting centre is in the middle of town, which is somewhere most local young people frankly just don't go. The town centre is nothing but cafes, charity shops and (lolz) bookies. Older generations still float about the town but young people would be going more out if their way. Very few who live here actually work here either, so it's not like the centre is on the way to / from work or on lunch break.
Hmm I dunno. It might do. But voting is so important that really even if its in a area you don't frequent, you should make the effort to go there. But yeah I guess where the station is could influence it a bit.

I thought there were loads of centres everywhere? I live in the middle of nowhere and even my little village has 3 polling stations. Our local town has like 10

Gavins sons school is closed as it is a polling station too.
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You're saying "the poor things" as though it's only the young... there's voter apathy across the board . Some people (of all ages) will be sure to vote, other people (of all ages) will only vote if they happen to be passing anyway. Not saying it's a good excuse, but it's the truth. And I was simply wondering if older people are more likely to be in the vicinity of their polling centre during their day-to-day business than younger people, as I have observed that young people are less likely to be in and around their local town centre.
You were musing about why the young mightn't vote, I was responding to your point, voter apathy is a different debate
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Hmm I dunno. It might do. But voting is so important that really even if its in a area you don't frequent, you should make the effort to go there. But yeah I guess where the station is could influence it a bit.

I thought there were loads of centres everywhere? I live in the middle of nowhere and even my little village has 3 polling stations. Our local town has like 10

Gavins sons school is closed as it is a polling station too.
My village (pop. 2500) only has one and I'm pretty sure the town only has one large one too... I might be wrong there, though.

Like I said above though, I know that everyone *should* make the effort to go out of their way to vote but, unfortunately, not everyone does. That applies to all age groups, too.
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You were musing about why the young mightn't vote, I was responding to your point, voter apathy is a different debate
I was saying that there are different types of voters; those who will make SURE to vote and those who will pop in to vote IF they happen to be near their polling station anyway.

Then mused that older generations MIGHT be "more likely to be near their polling station anyway".

It's not that complicated, is it? ...
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I was saying that there are different types of voters; those who will make SURE to vote and those who will pop in to vote IF they happen to be near their polling station anyway.

Then mused that older generations MIGHT be "more likely to be near their polling station anyway".

It's not that complicated, is it? ...
You are making it a lot more complicated than it needs to be, most people will have a polling station within walking distance of where they live, and we have cars and guess what young parents drop their kids off at school too, so all your scenarios really don't cut it, vote don't vote, but don't not vote and then moan endlessly about the result
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You are making it a lot more complicated than it needs to be, most people will have a polling station within walking distance of where they live, and we have cars and guess what young parents drop their kids off at school too, so all your scenarios really don't cut it, vote don't vote, but don't not vote and then moan endlessly about the result
FFS Cherie I was just vaguely wondering about something not making excuses for people, stop being so combative . You never used to be like this, I reckon you've been hanging around some bad influences too much .
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polling stations always tend to be in local meeting centres, villages halls, schools or whatever. They are designed to be as accessible as possible. There really isn't any excuse not to vote if you are intent on doing so. If you can't be bothered, then don't moan after the event if it didn't go your way.
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