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Old 17-05-2016, 07:37 AM #1
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Default Scot arrested for teaching dog nazi salute as joke: Is 1984 finally here?

A youtuber in Scotland wanted to annoy his girlfriend so he taught his dog nazism as a joke. The video went viral and he subsequently was arrested. Here the video that police claim was a hate crime.


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Old 17-05-2016, 07:42 AM #2
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Do you have a Link for the Story?
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Im guessing that if he was a jew and members of his family had been murdered in the most horrific manner he would not think this was such a massive hoot

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Gazdijuse. 'mon gazdijuze by the way.
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Im guessing that if he was a jew and members of his family had been murdered in the most horrific manner he would not think this was such a massive hoot

Meh. I didn't find it all that funny but not because of the gazdijuse. It just wasn't a very funny video...

It's sure as **** not a hate crime though - no moreso than countless episodes of South Park / Family Guy etc. Again it's up to the viewer whether or not they find it funny, BUT you don't see the creators being arrested for "hate crimes".

Or is there a difference when the content is "amateur"?

Don't see why there should be.


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I thought he kept asking the dog if it wanted a glass of juice.
He may thnk he isn't racist by the way...but I found him to be an offensive dickhead.
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I thought he kept asking the dog if it wanted a glass of juice.
He may thnk he isn't racist by the way...but I found him to be an offensive dickhead.
Me too Smudgie it too ages for the penny to drop I can understand why he was arrested, It was more to with his attitude and his promotion of anti semitism on the net, more than teaching the dog what was essentially give me the paw I hope his girlfriend dumped him

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It made me laugh personally.

Seriously why has telling a joke become a crime?
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he put the video online so he could say gas the jews, that's pretty obvious. The dog is a prop
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it's a case of overzealous policing that won't make it to prosecution because it isn't really hate speech.

Hate speech convictions should be reserved for people who endorse and preach violence againsts groups of people. It shouldn't be used to punish views we find difficult to stomach because society will do that anyway. He'll lose his job, will probably find it difficult to find specialised work for years to come and it's going to have an effect on his relationships with other people, Society will punish him enough.

This man's ruined his life and he deserves it but it's not a police matter.
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he put the video online so he could say gas the jews, that's pretty obvious. The dog is a prop
Exactly
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The dog is cleverer than him haha!
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It's gross, but idg why this warrants arrest...
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It has now emerged that Meechan was arrested on April 28 at his house in Coatbridge, Lanarkshire. He was subsequently released pending further investigations.

Detective Inspector David Cockburn of Lanarkshire CID said: “This clip was shared online and has been viewed almost one million times.

“I would ask anyone who has had the misfortune to have viewed it to think about the pain and hurt the narrative has caused a minority of people in our community.

“The clip is deeply offensive and no reasonable person can possibly find the content acceptable in today’s society.

“This arrest should serve as a warning to anyone posting such material online, or in any other capacity, that such views will not be tolerated.”



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...og-to-perform/
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I have something better than the story. Here is an interview of the guy who was arrested.

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I cringed the whole video, kind of stupid to put a video up of you saying 'gas the jews' about 50 times... even if it wasnt to be nasty

i only let out a giggle when he whispered 'Jews' and the dog lifted its head up
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I have something better than the story. Here is an interview of the guy who was arrested.

What an annoying interviewer I think he kinda missed the point as well, I wonder how he would have taken it if the guy was chanting "fly planes into buildings" over and over, haven't the Americans arrested people for joking about in airports about bombs

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It has now emerged that Meechan was arrested on April 28 at his house in Coatbridge, Lanarkshire. He was subsequently released pending further investigations.

Detective Inspector David Cockburn of Lanarkshire CID said: “This clip was shared online and has been viewed almost one million times.

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“The clip is deeply offensive and no reasonable person can possibly find the content acceptable in today’s society.

“This arrest should serve as a warning to anyone posting such material online, or in any other capacity, that such views will not be tolerated.”



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...og-to-perform/

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What an annoying interviewer I think he kinda missed the point as well, I wonder how he would have taken it if the guy was chanting "fly planes into buildings" over and over, haven't the Americans arrested people for joking about in airports about bombs
If you joke about that kind of thing at an airport I think there is a real possibility that you may be arrested but this is a different subject. Here a man is for comedy purposes teaching his dog to appear as a Nazi in the comforts of his own home and posts the video on an American website. It should be obvious to the most dim-witted person that he clearly is not advocating violence and even makes a point to say he is not a racist.

Popular speech does not need protection. Freedom of Speech is there to protect UNPOPULAR speech. Cherie, you can argue that this might hurt someone's feelings but I doubt you could argue that this will likely lead to violence.

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What an annoying interviewer I think he kinda missed the point as well, I wonder how he would have taken it if the guy was chanting "fly planes into buildings" over and over, haven't the Americans arrested people for joking about in airports about bombs
You would be arrested here for that too.
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If you joke about that kind of thing at an airport I think there is a real possibility that you may be arrested but this is a different subject. Here a man is for comedy purposes teaching his dog to appear as a Nazi in the comforts of his own home and posts the video on an American website. It should be obvious to the most dim-witted person that he clearly is not advocating violence and even makes a point to say he is not a racist.

Popular speech does not need protection. Freedom of Speech is there to protect UNPOPULAR speech. Cherie, you can argue that this might hurt someone's feelings but I doubt you could argue that this will likely lead to violence.
its not unpopular it is hate speech pretending to be some pathetic joke

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the dog needs a fake moustache.
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Man, you really need to get a sense of humor. This is something that happened over 70 years ago. It is a joke but I really doubt there is anything I can say to make you see how daft you are.

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I think he likes attention and he's got it.
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Man, you really need to get a sense of humor. This is something that happened over 70 years ago. It is a joke but I really doubt there is anything I can say to make you see how daft you are.
i've been saying for years that LT needs to get a sense of humour
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