[arista]

This was debated
today on CNN Talk HD.
30mins debate

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/20/a...ntl/index.html


An auction was held on the social media
platform for a 16-year-old girl in South Sudan
which sought payment for her hand in marriage.

The Dad got 500 Cows
3 Vehicles
and $10,000
for his 16 year old daughter



From that debate
without Facebook
he would not have got all that.
Facebook removed he post , but after the auction of his Daughter.



Sign Of The Times

[Oliver_W]

God, islamic countries are ****ed up.

I didn't even that was a real thing, it's like a stereotypical joke, "Here's my wife, she cost 500 cows and 12 chickens!"

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

God, islamic are ****ed up.

I didn't even that was a real thing, it's like a stereotypical joke, "Here's my wife, she cost 500 cows and 12 chickens!"

This is the point
Facebook is Worldwide
in South Sudan its a Nation
that lives in the past.
Facebook helped that Evil Dad
who sold his Daughter aged 16.

[Niamh.]

It's just so sickening.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

God, islamic are ****ed up.

I didn't even that was a real thing, it's like a stereotypical joke, "Here's my wife, she cost 500 cows and 12 chickens!"

There’s literally not one word in the article that states the mans religion.



A disgusting act and I hope the father is prosecuted

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's just so sickening.

Trouble is
it could inspire others to do the same.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

There’s literally not one word in the article that states the mans religion.



A disgusting act and I hope the father is prosecuted

tbf 97% of Sudanese are Muslim, however it gives a list of countries where child marriage is a thing and some of those countries are majority Christian (Mexico for example) also central African rep with 90% christian so I would imagine is a cultural thing

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

Trouble is
it could inspire others to do the same.

Facebook need to seriously clamp down on that. I wonder how child protection laws apply here with it being global

[arista]

"A disgusting act and I hope the father is prosecuted "

South Sudan
allows Dads to flog their own daughters
its a nation that likes the old ways.


Africa
‘Life is miserable’: Even when there’s food in South Sudan, many can’t afford it
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.5c7310c0bf1d
click view free

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Facebook need to seriously clamp down on that. I wonder how child protection laws apply here with it being global

Facebook
claim the will stop this.
But its impossible to Monitor every nation

[Beso]

I thought 16 was adulthood. ..

[Livia]

Some information about women's rights in Sudan:

A survey conducted by Reuters says, “Strict interpretations of Islam curb Sudanese women's freedoms. It allows for domestic abuse, child marriage and marital rape. Sexual violence is common and often goes unpunished.”.

More than 12 million Sudanese women and girls are victims of female genital mutilation. Girls can legally marry from the age of 10 - there is no limit on a man's age. Women don't have an automatic right to medical care and education as men do, Consequently, the maternal mortality rate is high.

Sudan's police force decides what's decent and what's not. Consequently, women wearing the wrong thing, a knee-length skirt or trousers for instance, is punishable by 40-50 lashes in public. There's film on Youtube if anyone can stomach watching a woman being lashed. And if your family is rich, of course the Police will take a bribe, being the good Muslims they are. Rapes are generally not reported because there is a very real risk that the woman will be tried for adultery.

So really, selling off a 16 year old sounds kind of mild... which is ****ed up in itself.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Uncontrolled population growth in Africa is a major world threat, one of if not the biggest to humanity at the moment and in the next 100 years

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Uncontrolled population growth in Africa is a major world threat, one of if not the biggest to humanity at the moment and in the next 100 years

I agree... and it's not just Africa. All the poorest countries are multiplying so fast while the richer countries are having less children and taking in more people.

They found a dead sperm wale yesterday with 6kg of plastic in its stomach. I wonder sometimes if we have as long as 100 years till we kill this planet completely.

[arista]

Sold his Daughter
getting a bigger Deal thanks to Facebook.

[500 Cows
3 Vehicles
and $10,000]

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Livia

I agree... and it's not just Africa. All the poorest countries are multiplying so fast while the richer countries are having less children and taking in more people.

Best thing to do would be to just not accept unskilled immigration from those countries whatsoever, leave 'em to it.

Originally Posted by parmnion

I thought 16 was adulthood. ..

She was unmarried, so she was still her father's chattel.

[Maru]

1) It's not FB's job to police the rest of the world. The other way to look at this, without FB, they would've just gone through other methods in order to find a "buyer"... it was just the most convenient way available. Only takes minutes for someone to respond and so the damage was probably already done well before the fact (it was reported).

2) It's arguably against our own interests as well to use Western-based platforms in this way to "clean up" the mess in other countries. It's bad enough the US has a large footprint militarily. We already see blowback for our tendency to proselytize others on our idealogy.

3) It might be in our interest to make it easier through channels such as FB to report a crime in that locale. That's probably better. These social media companies are not regulated and are in a uniquely vulnerable position in terms of being used for abusive purposes. Moreover, Russia, China, anyone really could simply create a "free speech" platform tomorrow since there is blowback with their censorship/clean up efforts. It would be really easy. Just attract all the right-wing/outraged mob folk to that new plat and evade detection. The right has been begging for an alternative for a while. Then it's very easy use those "interests" against our own culture. That is essentially what happened on FB/Twitter really, but they responded with censorship. This didn't really stop anything, it just probably drove those voices/interests underground. Though I'm not saying I'm against using platforms to share the virtues of Western ideals, but I can see it being anti-thetical to the "change" we hope to inspire world-wide... if foreign powers or even just interest groups (like terrorist organizations) ceize on the corruption in the US.

3) It is logistically impossible for sites the size of FB to self-manage and monitor all activities anyway. They can reduce, but not eliminate. It's much quicker to put up a post than it is to tag and remove. Any policy is impossible to apply inconsistently because of the haphazard nature of how certain problems spread. FB will always be used for illegal/heinous activities. It's the "public square" of the internet.

4) The 90's chatrooms of yore were mainly closed because of illegal activities such as the OP. Sex trafficking, child predators, foreign scammers, etc. Social media are not likely to suffer the same fate because it's actually profitable. So the only way to really separate the money from public interest is to regulate them as a utility. There's no easy way to go about quelling crime without removing the veil of anonymity. Probably.