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Old 08-05-2021, 06:20 PM #1
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Thumbs down Starmer has SACKED Angela Rayner Party Chairman

he said he takes full responsibility and then...



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He's worthless. A snake that desperately wants to be a tory. He should do everyone a favour and do exactly that rather than continue to poison the only party that has a hope against the tories with his endless incompetence.
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he's used her as a scapegoat. Cowardly bastard.
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My post from the Burnham thread.

I'm mixed on this. On one hand, she ran away from her left principles as soon as she got a seat at the top table, but on the other hand, kicking out the single parent, working class mum while Starmer has only been a spectator not an opponent, is terrible optics, and not what labour should be doing in my opinion.
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who is doing his PR

Cummings?
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i would imagine this is the beginning of a spring cleaning week
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He’s absolutely ridiculous
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Time for Labour to go for a vote of no confidence in Starmer and remove him.
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No surprise. Only person to get me voting for Labour would be Wes Streeting, i think his central left stance in the current climate is the only way to move the country forward. However he'll never be leader of the Labour Party, so it's a redundant thought.
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Former shadow chancellor John McDonnell said the decision to remove Angela Rayner as Labour’s chairman and campaigns chief was a “cowardly avoidance of responsibility”.

The senior party figure tweeted: “Keir Starmer said yesterday that he took full responsibility for the election result in Hartlepool and other losses.

“Instead today he’s scapegoating everyone apart from himself.

“This isn’t leadership, it’s a cowardly avoidance of responsibility.”
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Former shadow chancellor John McDonnell said the decision to remove Angela Rayner as Labour’s chairman and campaigns chief was a “cowardly avoidance of responsibility”.

The senior party figure tweeted: “Keir Starmer said yesterday that he took full responsibility for the election result in Hartlepool and other losses.

“Instead today he’s scapegoating everyone apart from himself.

“This isn’t leadership, it’s a cowardly avoidance of responsibility.”
how can it be seen as anything else?
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What a whopper of a bloke.
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Needs to be accountability I guess so if not Starmer himself than who?
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Needs to be accountability I guess so if not Starmer himself than who?
Yes exactly. So he is a liar as well as a coward because he stated that he would take full responsibility.
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No surprise. Only person to get me voting for Labour would be Wes Streeting, i think his central left stance in the current climate is the only way to move the country forward. However he'll never be leader of the Labour Party, so it's a redundant thought.

Wes is excellent.
I wouldn't be too sure he couldn't win in a future leadership election depending on who else stood.

Wes talks directly too and makes sense.

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Wes is excellent.
I wouldn't be too sure he couldn't win in a future leadership election depending on who else stood.

Wes talks directly too and makes sense.
I hope you're right tbh. Yeah he's just what Labour need imo. Excellent as you say!
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Taking responsibility for it needn't mean his stepping down.

Hartlepool was almost lost along with the rest of the Red Wall, so it falling now isn't a huge surprise. Keir's job is to turn the ship around and make Labour more attractive to "Joanna and Michael". It's not necessarily still Corbyn's fault, but Keir should have scrubbed his stink out of the party long before now.

He also should have made some of Labour's positions clearer - maybe not policies, it's a bit early at this point with the next election so far away, but at least some positions.
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I hope you're right tbh. Yeah he's just what Labour need imo. Excellent as you say!
Sadly Labour which is my party.
Doesn't seem to choose the right and best leaders unfortunately.

Wes has just been on the news, I love his delivery of what he says too.
Straight to the point.
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Whatever happened to David Miliband .. . I expected him to be the Labour leader at some time .... has he been involved in some kind of scandal or something ?


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no leader of a party ends up taking responsibility unless they resign, and generally, they never resign without being given a solid push

Given that, he has to be seen to be doing something, i expect a few to be replaced this week and then some new messaging. At this point it will take a real shift if the tories are going to be stopped from winning another term
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Labour doesn't exist anymore , all I see is Tory & Tory .
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