[GoldHeart]

Noky must be able to pick up on the cold negative body language of the gremlin group?. They're awful as a group, so immature ,bitter & nasty . But later on I noticed Sheep boy talking to Noky in bed ...both having a full conversation , the gremlins are really winding her up and messing with her head by looks of it . I really hope Noky can see through all this fake bs .

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Noky must be able to pick up on the cold negative body language of the gremlin group?. They're awful as a group, so immature ,bitter & nasty . But later on I noticed Sheep boy talking to Noky in bed ...both having a full conversation , the gremlins are really winding her up and messing with her head by looks of it . I really hope Noky can see through all this fake bs .

There is a sneak peak in the app worth watching

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Noky must be able to pick up on the cold negative body language of the gremlin group?. They're awful as a group, so immature ,bitter & nasty . But later on I noticed Sheep boy talking to Noky in bed ...both having a full conversation , the gremlins are really winding her up and messing with her head by looks of it . I really hope Noky can see through all this fake bs .

They will nominate her
If I was her I would hang out with the upstairs people.

[MTVN]

She's not really factional in nature like most of them are imo so wouldn't typically want to be attached to one group and only ever spend time with them. Matty is kinda similar tbh because he's still really close to Chanelle and spends time with that lot. I don't really understand their attitude towards Noky because on the one hand they were all saying they were happy for her staying on Friday (but not Trish) and do have friendly moments with her but then other times they do act horribly towards her like you say

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

They will nominate her
If I was her I would hang out with the upstairs people.

Hopefully she was just trying to be pleasant to everyone,I would like to hope Noky is more sensible than that . She was still spending time with Jordan , Henry etc in the LF. I think she feels obligated to check on the gremlins to see how they're doing. But I can tell even Chanelle wasn't interested in listening to Noky.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Hopefully she was just trying to be pleasant to everyone,I would like to hope Noky is more sensible than that . She was still spending time with Jordan , Henry etc in the LF. I think she feels obligated to check on the gremlins to see how they're doing. But I can tell even Chanelle wasn't interested in listening to Noky.

The garden lot are truly awful. I'd just leave them to it.

[Ray.]

I don't really see Noky hanging out with anyone from this series once they're outside of the house tbh. Maybe Zak, as she seemed particularly broken up about his leaving. But other than him as a possibility, I don't see her being attached to anyone from this series. So I don't think she really cares who she talks to while she's in there. It's just killing time 'til the finale.

[bots]

it just speeds up their exit out the door

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it just speeds up their exit out the door

They’ve all drifted out a little in betting odds overnight


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[eternal]

I've been indifferent about Noky this entire series. She brought nothing to the house for weeks and I can see why Jordan has nominated her a few times. I understand his scepticism, she comes across very robotic and obsessed with self-preservation at times. She seems a bit of a narcissist too, one of those people who constantly brings the conversation back to herself on the LF

I don't think she's inherently bad or anything like that though. I'd much rather her reach the final than ANY of the gremlin group. I thought she turned a corner last week and wised up to their antics. But unfortunately seeing her on the live feed last night and the night before was pathetic viewing. I'm hoping she's just being amicable but to me she seems desperate. Why would you even give that bunch the time of day after how they've treated you? The things they say behind her back are even worse and they've absolved Paul of any wrongdoing for his behaviour and instead blamed Noky and Trish for his departure. They're awful, awful people.

Yet she's been following them around and trying to play nicey nicey. Olivia is a bitter creature and clearly jealous of her. She's been condescending towards her in conversations about last week's events but Noky still passively accepts their rubbish with little resistance.

Basically Noky has no back bone and comes across desperate to be loved/accepted by everyone. She needs to grow a pair and realise that they don't care about you. They would gleefully celebrate her demise, they shouldn't be afforded any diplomacy. Being the victim of Paul's shitty behaviour and maintaining her composure is admirable, but it isn't enough for me to consider her a great or even good housemate. Not unless she finally bins the bitter bunch.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by eternal

I've been indifferent about Noky this entire series. She brought nothing to the house for weeks and I can see why Jordan has nominated her a few times. I understand his scepticism, she comes across very robotic and obsessed with self-preservation at times. She seems a bit of a narcissist too, one of those people who constantly brings the conversation back to herself on the LF

I don't think she's inherently bad or anything like that though. I'd much rather her reach the final than ANY of the gremlin group. I thought she turned a corner last week and wised up to their antics. But unfortunately seeing her on the live feed last night and the night before was pathetic viewing. I'm hoping she's just being amicable but to me she seems desperate. Why would you even give that bunch the time of day after how they've treated you? The things they say behind her back are even worse and they've absolved Paul of any wrongdoing for his behaviour and instead blamed Noky and Trish for his departure. They're awful, awful people.

Yet she's been following them around and trying to play nicey nicey. Olivia is a bitter creature and clearly jealous of her. She's been condescending towards her in conversations about last week's events but Noky still passively accepts their rubbish with little resistance.

Basically Noky has no back bone and comes across desperate to be loved/accepted by everyone. She needs to grow a pair and realise that they don't care about you. They would gleefully celebrate her demise, they shouldn't be afforded any diplomacy. Being the victim of Paul's shitty behaviour and maintaining her composure is admirable, but it isn't enough for me to consider her a great or even good housemate. Not unless she finally bins the bitter bunch.

Thats a brilliant post...and I totally agree with you. In fact I said last night she was looking very sheepish following them around everywhere and almost desperate for them to take her back in to the fold.
However, she must have heard comments from them regarding the 'others' because they have been slagging them off at every opportunity since Pauls departure....she ran off to the other group to get away from Paul. Now he has gone she has gone crawling back... I hope she remembers who had her back over the last week or so because if she rejoins them its not going to look good.
I know shes trying to be friends with everybody...but if she cannot see the scruples these people have...it doesn't say much about her.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by eternal

... and comes across desperate to be loved/accepted by everyone.

While I honestly think that everything else you wrote was far too harsh and damning, I do think that there is a truth to this.

In fact, everything else that you wrote was this part of her taken as negatively as possible.

But, I don't see it in such a damning light as you. Yes, she is over needy to be liked, and yes she is over-reliant on approval, but I think that she actually seeks it on her own terms and doesn't change who she is to gain it (as, say, Tom does).

It does make her blind or willing to ignore the more gross behaviours of others though in order to get along.

She would rather do that with the Gremlins than fight with them, that's all.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by eternal

I've been indifferent about Noky this entire series. She brought nothing to the house for weeks and I can see why Jordan has nominated her a few times. I understand his scepticism, she comes across very robotic and obsessed with self-preservation at times. She seems a bit of a narcissist too, one of those people who constantly brings the conversation back to herself on the LF

I don't think she's inherently bad or anything like that though. I'd much rather her reach the final than ANY of the gremlin group. I thought she turned a corner last week and wised up to their antics. But unfortunately seeing her on the live feed last night and the night before was pathetic viewing. I'm hoping she's just being amicable but to me she seems desperate. Why would you even give that bunch the time of day after how they've treated you? The things they say behind her back are even worse and they've absolved Paul of any wrongdoing for his behaviour and instead blamed Noky and Trish for his departure. They're awful, awful people.

Yet she's been following them around and trying to play nicey nicey. Olivia is a bitter creature and clearly jealous of her. She's been condescending towards her in conversations about last week's events but Noky still passively accepts their rubbish with little resistance.

Basically Noky has no back bone and comes across desperate to be loved/accepted by everyone. She needs to grow a pair and realise that they don't care about you. They would gleefully celebrate her demise, they shouldn't be afforded any diplomacy. Being the victim of Paul's shitty behaviour and maintaining her composure is admirable, but it isn't enough for me to consider her a great or even good housemate. Not unless she finally bins the bitter bunch.

Fabulous


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[rusticgal]

Just seen the clip on the App….and to be fair Noky does speak to ‘them’ about the fact they probably won’t forgive her or accept her (words to that effect)….Chanelle ended up walking off.

[Redrose]

Dylan walked over and mentioned the lamb chops and Trish didn't care. Why should Jenkins care about not sharing his cake?

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Redrose

Dylan walked over and mentioned the lamb chops and Trish didn't care. Why should Jenkins care about not sharing his cake?

This threads about Noky…keep up.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Just seen the clip on the App….and to be fair Noky does speak to ‘them’ about the fact they probably won’t forgive her or accept her (words to that effect)….Chanelle ended up walking off.

Hopefully Noky can stay with Trish's group now , even if none of that happened. The gremlin garden group are so painfully miserable and boring to hang out with.

I could spend all night sitting with Jordan & Yinrun making vibration noises with their voices ,and be more entertained . I actually enjoyed that on the LF ...it showed that Jordan can be fun if he lets go .

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Hopefully Noky can stay with Trish's group now , even if none of that happened. The gremlin garden group are so painfully miserable and boring to hang out with.

I could spend all night sitting with Jordan & Yinrun making vibration noises with their voices ,and be more entertained . I actually enjoyed that on the LF ...it showed that Jordan can be fun if he lets go .

Why is she wasting her time? The garden group are hell bent on revenge and will definitely nominate both her and Trish.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Why is she wasting her time? The garden group are hell bent on revenge and will definitely nominate both her and Trish.

Maybe she’s trying to avoid that nomination…

[bots]

Noky just refuses to be put in a category, and i don't blame her

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Maybe she’s trying to avoid that nomination…

Yeah I think she's got her thinking cap on , it is a game after all.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Noky just refuses to be put in a category, and i don't blame her

Nobody puts Noky in a corner






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[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Nobody puts Noky in a corner






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This is so accurate aswell, notice how happier and confident she is since Paul the chav left .

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

This is so accurate aswell, notice how happier and confident she is since Paul the chav left .

Yes !

It’s just like she tried to explain to the numpties ..

She moved in with the upstairs crew to get away from Paul who was having a very negative effect on her mentally - sadly very few understood or believed her

I said a few days ago that he was a bully and was told that nobody was being bullied as they were in the safety of the BB house !!

I just wish she had stayed upstairs



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[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Maybe she’s trying to avoid that nomination…

Mmm maybe. But Tom and Olivia blame her and Trish for Paul going.