[GoldHeart]

If I have it wrong then I have it wrong,but I'm sorry but what planet is Emma on with this ridiculous crackpot theory of ' Khaled fancying Ali' , erm since when ?? .

I think Emma likes to stir the pot , this can't be a way to have a clean slate/ call a truce between them .....when she's basically sabotaged Khaled. She is giving Ali more ammunition to attack him ,as now he's seen as some
' bitter toxic male who feels rejected', like seriously talk
about pulling stuff from thin air with zero evidence
.


Ali is delusional, and she cannot see beyond the Ali universe. She thinks the only way a guy dislikes her is because he must secretly fancy her ,or be some 'awful
misogynistic ' . Because it can't possibly be Ali's calculated behaviour or her horrible attitude, no no...it has to be because it's unreciprocated romance , due to her sexual orientation. Wow the reaching .

But this is the same Emma who claims she passionately
kissed Mick Hucknall from Simply Red , which I think is
another fantasy story she made up. She's honestly made things worse now.

[Niamh.]

Why would that be part of her game plan? How would it benefit her at all? We haven't even seen her saying that to Ali anyway

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Why would that be part of her game plan? How would it benefit her at all? We haven't even seen her saying that to Ali anyway

She said it in a L& L exclusive, we'll probably see it again in tonight's HL in more detail . And Ali was running with it.... like it was some light bulb moment of " ohhh so that's why Khaled was distant with me as he found out i was a lesbian and couldn't get with me".

The false narrative is being set for Khaled. Ali is twisting it around as if it was Khaled who had a problem with her from the start ,when she's the one who started the whole " fake " accusation. Hence why Khaled felt uncomfortable around her , it has nothing to do with romance . It's as if some EastEnders script has been thrown into the mix.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

She said it in a L& L exclusive, we'll probably see it again in tonight's HL in more detail . And Ali was running with it.... like it was some light bulb moment of " ohhh so that's why Khaled was distant with me as he found out i was a lesbian and couldn't get with me".

The false narrative is being set for Khaled. Ali is twisting it around as if it was Khaled who had a problem with her from the start ,when she's the one who started the whole " fake " accusation. Hence why Khaled felt uncomfortable around her , it has nothing to do with romance . It's as if some EastEnders script has been thrown into the mix.

They showed Emma saying it to Ali? Again though if there's a false narrative being set then it's by Ali, how do we know that Khaled didn't say that to Emma?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

They showed Emma saying it to Ali? Again though if there's a false narrative being set then it's by Ali, how do we know that Khaled didn't say that to Emma?

Didn't you see last night's L & L ? , Will showed a exclusive clip of Emma talking to Ali.

I don't believe Khaled said it ,plus it's not fair anyway to mention something from the launch night, before any of the housemates actually spoke or got to know eachother fully .

It's quite possible Khaled found some of the girls attractive ....he's a young straight guy after all ,but It is being blown up into something crazy. And it's very damaging and misleading. Ali is using this as a weapon now .

Imagine if a rumour went around the house that Ali secretly fancied one of the boys, she'd be outraged . On L& L that Harriet guest was already getting protective of Ali's situation...and saying we must " respect her" . Which I find a bit rich when Ali shows a lack of respect or understanding for others, and she will now play on the fact Khaled must ' fancy' her , whilst as usual taking zero responsibility for her actions.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Didn't you see last night's L & L ? , Will showed a exclusive clip of Emma talking to Ali.

I don't believe Khaled said it ,plus it's not fair anyway to mention something from the launch night, before any of the housemates actually spoke or got to know eachother fully .

It's quite possible Khaled found some of the girls attractive ....he's a young straight guy after all ,but It is being blown up into something crazy. And it's very damaging and misleading. Ali is using this as a weapon now .

Imagine if a rumour went around the house that Ali secretly fancied one of the boys, she'd be outraged . On L& L that Harriet guest was already getting protective of Ali's situation...and saying we just " respect her" . Which I find a bit rich when Ali shows a lack of respect or understanding for others, and she will now play on the fact Khaled must ' fancy' , whilst as usual taking zero responsibility for her actions.

No I didn't see that, I only saw Ali telling Dean

[Ammi]

…I saw the clip of Emma saying it to Ali but it still didn’t really show context because the vein of the conversation/chat leading up to it wasn’t shown…I’d still like to see the fuller context…but Ali did seem taken by surprise with the remark/reveal…I don’t know why Emma told her but I don’t get the feeling that Emma is stirring anything, I haven’t seen that in any of her behaviour before…I mean, I know we only see the HL but it’s not something that’s been shown about her…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I saw the clip of Emma saying it to Ali but it still didn’t really show context because the vein of the conversation/chat leading up to it wasn’t shown…I’d still like to see the fuller context…but Ali did seem taken by surprise with the remark/reveal…I don’t know why Emma told her but I don’t get the feeling that Emma is stirring anything, I haven’t seen that in any of her behaviour before…I mean, I know we only see the HL but it’s not something that’s been shown about her…

Did she say that he actually fancied her or just that he said he liked her? I would think it's more likely she said it in the hope it might soften Ali's attitude to him, not how it seems Ali took it

[arista]

I think she is staying back

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Did she say that he actually fancied her or just that he said he liked her? I would think it's more likely she said it in the hope it might soften Ali's attitude to him, not how it seems Ali took it

…( I think…)…that she did say that he’d had a crush on her …she was smiling when she said it as if something jokey and light had been said just prior, which is why it would be good to see more…


…I’m trying to work out how/where I could find the clip for you…

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I saw the clip of Emma saying it to Ali but it still didn’t really show context because the vein of the conversation/chat leading up to it wasn’t shown…I’d still like to see the fuller context…but Ali did seem taken by surprise with the remark/reveal…I don’t know why Emma told her but I don’t get the feeling that Emma is stirring anything, I haven’t seen that in any of her behaviour before…I mean, I know we only see the HL but it’s not something that’s been shown about her…

I just don't understand her motives for telling Ali this , what did she think it would achieve? . All it's done is make Ali feel more superior & justified in her unhealthy behaviour towards Khaled , Ali will not admit to being wrong, she thinks this is all Khaled's doing, he's the ' bad irrational guy ' , and she's the ' helpless victim' , in her delulu head . Despite the fact she caused tension &
arguements with him in the first place.

[Liam-]

Yet Ali is still to blame to Emma stirring and putting things in her head, it’s a shame the clip wasn’t In the highlight show, but not surprising seeing as it’s obvious what narrative is being pushed by the producers

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Did she say that he actually fancied her or just that he said he liked her? I would think it's more likely she said it in the hope it might soften Ali's attitude to him, not how it seems Ali took it

…I think it was ‘had a crush’ rather than fancied…

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I just don't understand her motives for telling Ali this , what did she think it would achieve? . All it's done is make Ali feel more superior & justified in her unhealthy behaviour towards Khaled , Ali will not admit to being wrong, she thinks this is all Khaled's doing, he's the ' bad irrational guy ' , and she's the ' helpless victim' , in her delulu head . Despite the fact she caused tension &
arguements with him in the first place.

…ughhhhh, I hate it when we don’t see full context…

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…ughhhhh, I hate it when we don’t see full context…

Hopefully we see it tonight in it's entirety , and yeah Emma said the word " crush", but Ali ran with it like a leaky tap.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Yet Ali is still to blame to Emma stirring and putting things in her head, it’s a shame the clip wasn’t In the highlight show, but not surprising seeing as it’s obvious what narrative is being pushed by the producers

Not sure how that would be considered stirring though, that's a nice thing to hear surely?

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I think it was ‘had a crush’ rather than fancied…

Yeah, it was. But i think they are using the term 'crush' rather loosely here

I think it's entirely possible that Khaled was more interested in Ali when he didn't know her and assumed she was straight and potentially available.

But him losing interest when he knew the score had nothing to do with anything that followed, which was 100% Ali attacking him.

I have to say tho, I do like Emma. She reminds me of good time 90s girls like I knew back in the day when I managed nightclubs. Her little story about Hucknell was, tbh, believable and funny.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Yeah, it was. But i think they are using the term 'crush' rather loosely here

I think it's entirely possible that Khaled was more interested in Ali when he didn't know her and assumed she was straight and potentially available.

But him losing interest when he knew the score had nothing to do with anything that followed, which was 100% Ali attacking him.

I have to say tho, I do like Emma. She reminds me of good time 90s girls like I knew back in the day when I managed nightclubs. Her little story about Hucknell was, tbh, believable and funny.

Yeah, not sure why people would think she was lying, she was a page three girl back then after all and he's not exactly Brad Pitt

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Not sure how that would be considered stirring though, that's a nice thing to hear surely?

When everybody knows they don’t get on and that there’s unresolved tension there? No, he’s not stupid

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I just don't understand her motives for telling Ali this , what did she think it would achieve? . All it's done is make Ali feel more superior & justified in her unhealthy behaviour towards Khaled , Ali will not admit to being wrong, she thinks this is all Khaled's doing, he's the ' bad irrational guy ' , and she's the ' helpless victim' , in her delulu head . Despite the fact she caused tension &
arguements with him in the first place.

…I guess that I could imagine that if they were having a conversation about ‘red witch-gate’…and how Ali is being perceived in the house…?…Emma could have thrown it out there in a way of trying to lighten it or even encourage some more neutral/positive ground between them/what I mean is, by a way of saying to Ali, no the guys don’t think you’re a witch/want to burn you…Khaled even said that he had a crush on you when we first came in…I can imagine a context of it being said by Emma that was just trying to lighten something and encourage less of a negative vibe in Ali…?…

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, not sure why people would think she was lying, she was a page three girl back then after all and he's not exactly Brad Pitt

"It was 'orrible!"

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Not sure how that would be considered stirring though, that's a nice thing to hear surely?

No it's not nice when she has a major issue with Khaled ,and now she can paint him as some ' bitter love sick loser' who is upset he can't date her . The seeds are being sown .

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

When everybody knows they don’t get on and that there’s unresolved tension there? No, he’s not stupid

I would have thought that Emma was telling her to try and soften her view of him

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by vesavius

"It was 'orrible!"

I can imagine it was

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

No it's not nice when she has a major issue with Khaled ,and now she can paint him as some ' bitter love sick loser' who is upset he can't date her . The seeds are being sown .

I doubt that Emma thought that deeply about it tbh

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Yeah, it was. But i think they are using the term 'crush' rather loosely here

I think it's entirely possible that Khaled was more interested in Ali when he didn't know her and assumed she was straight and potentially available.

But him losing interest when he knew the score had nothing to do with anything that followed, which was 100% Ali attacking him.

I have to say tho, I do like Emma. She reminds me of good time 90s girls like I knew back in the day when I managed nightclubs. Her little story about Hucknell was, tbh, believable and funny.

…I think that people can say things like…oh, they’re so nice/so beautiful or whatever, I think that I might have a crush on them…in a complimentary way but not mean it as a literal also, you know…