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vesavius · 27-10-2025, 01:49 AM

No one else, with them all sat around like nodding dogs, but thinking the same thing, had the guts to just say..

DID YOU SEE A DOCTOR?

Because, sorry, Elsa is clearly either mentally ill or just lying for attention and someone needed to point that out.

Or am I actually the only person that thinks her stories are just bullshit? Please, tell me that you all don't buy it?

Telling stories about ****ing demons is not normal. The fact that people are against Jenny saying that what Elsa said was insane is terrifying.

Yes, people are allowed to talk about what they believe, but others are also allowed to be scared when you start talking about having seen feckin demons in the walls.

Marcus also clearly thought it was bullshit but he wants to get his end wet so is just not so willing to say it out loud.

The Grinch · 27-10-2025, 02:08 AM

I think it’s so rude to call her mental though. Sure I don’t believe in most of those things but she does and we should just accept that she could be seeing things.

vesavius · 27-10-2025, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry.

I think it’s so rude to call her mental though. Sure I don’t believe in most of those things but she does and we should just accept that she could be seeing things.

You don't believe it, yet you think we should accept it?

Good grief.

You say 'rude', I say just being real. Elsa def needs help and it's not wrong to say that.

The Grinch · 27-10-2025, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by vesavius

You don't believe it, yet you think we should accept it?

Good grief.

There are people who believe in that type of stuff.

It shouldn’t bother you as much as it does really.

There has been spooky things happen or caught on camera etc.

vesavius · 27-10-2025, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry.

There are people who believe in that type of stuff.

It shouldn’t bother you as much as it does really.

There has been spooky things happen or caught on camera etc.

It only 'bothers' me when it is offered up for conversation on BB... I don't sit up at night thinking about it lol... Stop trying to gaslight me.

Are you actually telling that you believe her when she says that she has seen demons in the walls of the BB house... A studio that was built for the show in 2023?

The Grinch · 27-10-2025, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by vesavius

It only 'bothers' me when it is offered up for conversation on BB... I don't sit up at night thinking about it lol... Stop trying to gaslight me.

Are you actually telling that you believe her when she says that she has seen demons in the walls of the BB house... A studio that was built for the show in 2023?

Of course not. I don’t think the building is haunted but, and it’s a big but, spirits don’t just stick to one place, again, if you believe that stuff.

She mentioned this to Big Brother. If she was not fit enough to be in the house they would of got her out of there

vesavius · 27-10-2025, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry.

Of course not. I don’t think the building is haunted but...

Then why the **** are you enabling her nonsense?

Are you aware of the term 'toxic empathy'?

The Grinch · 27-10-2025, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by vesavius

Then why the **** are you enabling her nonsense?

Are you aware of the term 'toxic empathy'?

I’m not enabling her. I just think her being called mental wasn’t right. Jenny shouldn’t have said that. If she said something more nicely about it I don’t think it would have bothered me.

vesavius · 27-10-2025, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry.

I’m not enabling her. I just think her being called mental wasn’t right. Jenny shouldn’t have said that. If she said something more nicely about it I don’t think it would have bothered me.

But it IS mental

Not saying that is literally enabling Elsa in these delusions (or lies, I don't know).

Asking someone if they saw a doctor because they believe that they were ****ed by a demon and because they see demons in the walls is 100% fine and fair.

It's amazing to me that you don't believe her yet you think it's wrong to say openly that you don't believe her.

The Grinch · 27-10-2025, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by vesavius

But it IS mental

Not saying that is literally enabling Elsa in these delusions (or lies, I don't know).

Asking someone if they saw a doctor because they believe that they were ****ed by a demon and because they see demons in the walls is 100% fine and fair.

It's amazing to me that you don't believe her yet you think it's wrong to say openly that you don't believe her.

I never said I don’t think you can disagree and not talk about it. I’m saying calling her mental was wrong, that’s all

vesavius · 27-10-2025, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry.

I never said I don’t think you can disagree and not talk about it. I’m saying calling her mental was wrong, that’s all

I consider it just being honest.

because it IS mental

Silence is just enabling that absurdity.

thesheriff443 · 27-10-2025, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by vesavius

I consider it just being honest.

because it IS mental

Silence is just enabling that absurdity.

It’s not a real life situation it’s on a game show that you can win a hundred grand by not getting voted out

Merry Mockmas · 27-10-2025, 05:13 AM

From the sounds of it Jenny was saying what most people would tell Elsa (or anyone else) if they were talking about seeing Demons.

Without watching it myself I don't know if Jenny's delivered it in a harsh way, but her point is more than fair.

Merry Mockmas · 27-10-2025, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry.

I think it’s so rude to call her mental though. Sure I don’t believe in most of those things but she does and we should just accept that she could be seeing things.

But Elsa does make herself sound mental tbf.

bots · 27-10-2025, 05:25 AM

Seeing things that aren't there, and demons talking to her in her head is a classic sign of mental illness. When she started with the demon went down her throat and inside her, i think she was watching season 2 of Stranger things. Personally, i think the producers had a word with her and told her to tell a story to set up halloween week, but thats just me.

I think on this occasion, Jenny was correct, she should see a doctor, and if the producers didn't set the whole thing up, they should have hauled her in to the diary room for a chat, because demons talking to you, the next step is violence toward other people

millyrose · 27-10-2025, 07:09 AM

Yes it did sound like she had been watching Stranger Things, i wouldn't be surprised if the producers had told her to tell a story

Thotmas · 27-10-2025, 07:15 AM

People celebrate the concept of Halloween until someone says they see it for real. Ghosts, demons, dead people

The original concept of Halloween was around celebrating dead saints and souls?

I kind of agree with Zelah- for people with a religion it's real but from atheists they won't.

Thotmas · 27-10-2025, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry.

I think it’s so rude to call her mental though. Sure I don’t believe in most of those things but she does and we should just accept that she could be seeing things.

I agree with this. It was so patronising "have you seen a doctor?" Imagine any other context there would be ofcom complaints. Infact some people say the whole trans agenda is a mental illness also. Imagine if that was said to Zelah

ChristmasNeeve · 27-10-2025, 08:05 AM

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I agree with this. It was so patronising "have you seen a doctor?" Imagine any other context there would be ofcom complaints. Infact some people say the whole trans agenda is a mental illness also. Imagine if that was said to Zelah

She should see a bloody doctor if shes serious but i think she's absolutely full of **** and a massive attention seeker

Ammi · 27-10-2025, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

I agree with this. It was so patronising "have you seen a doctor?" Imagine any other context there would be ofcom complaints. Infact some people say the whole trans agenda is a mental illness also. Imagine if that was said to Zelah

…it wasn’t just, have you seen a doctor…there was also the suggestion that she talk to a priest…?…why would she talk to a priest if she’s thought to be ‘mental’…and if ‘demons’ aren't believed in then surely God would not be believed in either…God/Devil…angels/demons all go hand in hand …

…I personally would never question Elsa in terms of what she believes she sees and experiences…I know that it has no relevance in terms of what others believe but I’ve worked with too many cared for children/adopted children and know that their traumas can manifest in so many ‘unbelievable’ ways…the mind is all powerful in forming and transforming terrifying experiences into ‘forms’ that it can understand and for children, obviously demons are something they fear and understand as ‘bad’….anyways, this is just a reality show, isn’t it….and anything that I have experienced in life in terms of children with trauma isn’t relevant…there are many papers written and this is only one link if there is any further thought …. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24647210/

…what I do feel is that Elsa isn’t someone who should have been put into the BB house, this isn’t the place for this and all of her behaviour/including her strong immediate attachment to Marcus has absolutely reinforced that…I have no idea what psych evaluation BB are using but it feels to me that it’s very much broken…

bots · 27-10-2025, 08:23 AM

Unfortunately in the world of social media, people can talk complete bollocks that is untrue and pass it off as fact. Some individuals have millions of followers because they either believe it or wonder what tosh they are going to come out with next. This is the world we live in these days.

Personally, i think this is likely the strategy that Elsa is taking. Build a social media following based on crazy stuff she does in the house. It's actually quite smart if that's her intention

Rustic bauble · 27-10-2025, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

She should see a bloody doctor if shes serious but i think she's absolutely full of **** and a massive attention seeker

Yes I agree. She is a massive attention seeker. I mean many of us can maybe relate to 'unnatural goings on'..myself included. However seeing demons, being exorcised and spirits having sex with her...she clearly needs to see someone.
Jenny's reaction was hilarious...it was a natural reaction and many many people will be saying the same thing. Elsa must have had that reaction a lot but she played the proper victim for public sympathy.

...and who remembers what they saw at 3 years of age!!.