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InOne · 02-06-2010, 04:06 PM

GaGa needs a good shag

Smithy · 02-06-2010, 04:06 PM

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Who's "They" ?

Callum, Enid, Harry!, InOne, LemonJam, lime, Mrluvaluva, Niamhxo, Novo, Princess, setanta, Shaun, Spike, Stu, thebeast, WOMBAI, Zippy

Zippy · 02-06-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Who's "They" ?

The womens lawn bowling club in Weymouth.

Harry! · 02-06-2010, 04:09 PM

Lady Gaga will not be around in 10 + years time. The same happened to Britney and co and look where they are now. It happened even in the 80's with Cindi Lauper and Debbie Harry. Madonna will still be around longer then Gaga will be. Fact.

Niamh. · 02-06-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy

Callum, Enid, Harry!, InOne, LemonJam, lime, Mrluvaluva, Niamhxo, Novo, Princess, setanta, Shaun, Spike, Stu, thebeast, WOMBAI, Zippy

I didn't say any of those things, I simply said I prefered Madonna!

InOne · 02-06-2010, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry!

Lady Gaga will not be around in 10 + years time. The same happened to Britney and co and look where they are now. It happened even in the 80's with Cindi Lauper and Debbie Harry. Madonna will still be around longer then Gaga will be. Fact.

Go on Harry lad. We love Madonna

Smithy · 02-06-2010, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry!

Lady Gaga will not be around in 10 + years time. The same happened to Britney and co and look where they are now. It happened even in the 80's with Cindi Lauper and Debbie Harry. Madonna will still be around longer then Gaga will be. Fact.

Britney is still a successful "artist", she just never topped her debut, GaGa has, everything she releases tops the last thing.

Smithy · 02-06-2010, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I didn't say any of those things, I simply said I prefered Madonna!

Fine remove your name then

Harry! · 02-06-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy

Britney is still a successful "artist", she just never topped her debut, GaGa has, everything she releases tops the last thing.

Britney's peak was pre hair shaving. Look at the Circus singles charts to prove it.

Lady Gaga will have a peak very soon (Next albums possibly) and then fall just like Britney and co.

Zippy · 02-06-2010, 04:15 PM

Don't **** with Harry. He'll cut you.

You're virtually insulting his own Grandma. Worse even.

Niamh. · 02-06-2010, 04:15 PM

actually the only one thing on that list I did say was that her fashion sense was silly but clearly I was wrong

Beastie · 02-06-2010, 04:16 PM

I bet Madonna is one of few artists who does not mime in her songs.....

Smithy · 02-06-2010, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry!

Britney's peak was pre hair shaving. Look at the Circus singles charts to prove it.

Lady Gaga will have a peak very soon (Next albums possibly) and then fall just like Britney and co.

Britney never topped her debut single and it's unlikely she ever will. Circus did rather well in the states, it gave her a number one single, number one album and the other singles did rather well.

GaGa's next album will be her defining album, it'll be the one she is remembered for but she'll still be huge. No-one has had the amount of fame she has had and lost it.

Smithy · 02-06-2010, 04:16 PM

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I bet Madonna is one of few artists who does not mime in her songs.....

Can you find a single video where GaGa mimed?

Stu · 02-06-2010, 04:17 PM

'They' don't exist. GaGa had many detractors but it was blatantly obvious she was going to be huge. I love how kids convinced themselves that they were special and 'in' on some online phenomenon that turned big so they could say 'I have been here since the start!'.

GaGa was always going to be big. She was ultra commercial from the start of her pop reign and was always poised for stardom in that guise. It's the same with the X-Factor and people 'getting behind' and 'believing' in someone to win. Complete pish. Your only being led into believing you are a part of something special or unique.

Manufactured grassroots. Sign of the times.

Niamh. · 02-06-2010, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

GaGa needs a good shag

Do you think she's a giver or a taker?

Harry! · 02-06-2010, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy

Britney never topped her debut single and it's unlikely she ever will. Circus did rather well in the states, it gave her a number one single, number one album and the other singles did rather well.

GaGa's next album will be her defining album, it'll be the one she is remembered for but she'll still be huge. No-one has had the amount of fame she has had and lost it.

In Britney terms Gaga's next album will be In The Zone or Blackout. Around that time she checked into rehab and the like.

Gaga may be swimming well in the success pool at the moment but the plug will come out very soon and will fall.

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Stu · 02-06-2010, 04:25 PM

I actually think GaGa will last, and I think it's riddiculous to compare her to other artists, Harry. None of us know if she will last or not. Stop pretending you do.

Zippy · 02-06-2010, 04:25 PM

Actually, I do think Gaga will be around for years too. She has musical credibility already which is unusual for a female popstar of her ilk. The mature side of the business respects her. Because she can actually sing and play instruments. Her act is for a live audience not just videos. That credibility will carry her far.

Now Im playing both sides. Coz I love both.

Harry! · 02-06-2010, 04:35 PM

To flip the coin to give my positive comments on Gaga. I do think she is a talented artists and has produced great songs. She is quite well known now so that will be good for her in the future. And she is doing things that not many female artists are doing at the moment which is also good for her setting some backbone in the music world today.

I just see a very short expiry date and do not see her in the same amount of time Madonna has been around (Almost 30 years).

Shaun · 02-06-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy

Point #1 - most recognised? I don't think so. There're probably plenty who have barely heard her name. Madonna's much more synonymous with worldwide stardom, simply by longevity proxy.

Point #2 - digital sales have been going for about 5 years...that's not much of an accolade. Madonna's sold 200 million records. GaGa isn't even on the list of bestsellers.

Point #3 - Her 'fashion' is silly, and not just that, it's a total ****ing ripoff. She's not remotely creative - for her ALBUM cover for starters she stole David Bowie's Ziggy-stripe and other than that all she's really done is wear next-to-nothing and a few stupid headpieces. Bjork, Grace Jones, Tori Amos, countless fashionistas (Vivienne Westwood, anyone?) have been doing that for decades.

Point #4 - Well let's see about 10 years.

Point #5 - Barack Obama is the biggest celebrity kiss-ass since Tony Blair; Elton John is wheeled out for any old slut (Pete Doherty at Live 8, anyone?) and Diversity have performed for the Queen...

Point #6 - omg the grammies, those really rare prizes.

Point #7 - That's fair enough. Impressive. But who is the competition? Britney's a mess, Beyoncé's songs all sound the same, Christina disappeared for about a century, who else is there? And actually - the Beatles had 8. That can be whatever record you like if you bend the rules.

So no. No accepting from me.

Smithy · 02-06-2010, 04:49 PM

think you are just living in the past and are unaesthetic t accept the fact that madonna may no longer be he biggest pop star on earth

Tom4784 · 02-06-2010, 04:51 PM

This isn't a debate, Madonna has had a longer and more impactful career then Gaga for the moment. She's also managed to re-invent herself to stay relevent to the times and was a cultural phenomenom.

Gaga's done ***** all in comparision. Give her a few years to see if she can maintain this level of fame before this question is seriously asked.

Shaun · 02-06-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy

think you are just living in the past and are unaesthetic t accept the fact that madonna may no longer be he biggest pop star on earth

unaesthetic? If you're going to use big words, Smithy, please check out what they mean.

and sure, gaga's big amongst all of the internet generation and fags, but how many adults 30+ know who she is? Very few, and most only by name, not a clue about her music. Do they know who Madonna is? Almost certainly.