[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

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This is too painful! When will this stop? Why the **** is all that bombing about then?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

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OFFS,Is this breaking news? bloody barbaric twunts.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Unfortunately it is.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ror-group.html

I knew his father and family begging for release was a bad idea. It only encouraged them more.

[hijaxers]

Totally shocking news - and now the other guys father has begged for his release

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Unfortunately it is.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ror-group.html

I knew his father and family begging for release was a bad idea. It only encouraged them more.

..and the father of another hostage has just made a plea as well...this is beyond barbaric, these people are pure evil...

[Samm]

Oh

[AnnieK]

Devastating.....just devastating

[Amy Jade]

All of these beheadings are making me so angry, I wish somebody would catch these evil bastards and wipe them from existence.

[Natalie.]

awful

[andybigbro]

Disgusting

He people behind this are evil evil evil evil people.

[Ninastar]

disgusting. his poor family, my thoughts are with them. R.I.P

[Anaesthesia]

The really frightening thing is that their hope is to create anger and retaliation; immediate reaction, not thought through.

Wars should never be fought in those circumstances. Not unless you are the provocateur.

[Marc]

That's so sad

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

[Ross.]

dreadful

[Kazanne]

Can you imagine the terror of knowing someone is going to cut your head off!!!? utterly terrifying,these poor guys.

[Marc]

This is just so sickening, I rarely let news stories get to me like this but this is so painful to read.

[Northern Monkey]

If i was PM i'd send the SAS in to catch these ***** and cut their balls off and then their heads.

[MTVN]

Even Al Qaeda opposed his killing, Abu Qatada opposed his killing. In one of his last letters Bin Laden condemned Islamist fighters becoming so dogmatic that they killed anyone who practised a different creed to them and warned against being driven by sectarian fury. Isis really are a new breed of Islamic extremist.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Even Al Qaeda opposed his killing, Abu Qatada opposed his killing. In one of his last letters Bin Laden condemned Islamist fighters becoming so dogmatic that they killed anyone who practised a different creed to them and warned against being driven by sectarian fury. Isis really are a new breed of Islamic extremist.

Good post, I am just really furious with these evil things, this as with the others is another truly sickening murder.

[waterhog]

i am lost for words.

[Creggle]

not gonna lie, nothing would please me more than getting one of these scum bags in a room with a scalpel and a few shots of adrenaline

[lostalex]

surely these hostages must know they are going to die, so i don't understand why they cooperate with these terrorists and repeat their propaganda for them.

If we ever catch these guys we should behead them with a rusty dull saw instead of a sharp knife.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by lostalex

surely these hostages must know they are going to die, so i don't understand why they cooperate with these terrorists and repeat their propaganda for them.

If we ever catch these guys we should behead them with a rusty dull saw instead of a sharp knife.

..in a hostage situation and with isolation etc and only having your captors speak 'their truth', it could also be that they believe what they're saying as well...

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by lostalex

surely these hostages must know they are going to die, so i don't understand why they cooperate with these terrorists and repeat their propaganda for them.

If we ever catch these guys we should behead them with a rusty dull saw instead of a sharp knife.

I don't believe that anyone can say with any certainty, just what they would do or say in the appalling circumstances which 'these hostages' have found themselves in - no matter how courageous one may believe he is.

Perhaps, the vile, inhuman bastards who are responsible, had promised poor Alan Henning that they would release him if he 'cooperated', who knows?

I only know one thing for certain; and that is that Alan Henning was a far more courageous person than the s**t ****** coward known as 'Jihadi John' could ever be.

In this one barbaric act alone, we have the underlying truth about this phoney 'war', for the all the world to see, it is not a 'Holy War', it is war waged by evil cowards against innocent victims:

On the one hand, we have Mr Henning, a kind, decent, compassionate British 47-year-old father-of-two, who - for the noblest of motives - voluntarily gave up his comfortable, safe life in this civilised, democratic and free country, leaving his family and loved ones behind in the process, to travel to a backward and dangerous, war-torn, foreign country, to carry out humanitarian works on behalf of a Muslim Charity.

Mr Henning did not assume any disguise or conceal his name or identity, and his charitable actions whilst there, were as open as his motives for being there.

Then, we have the appalling coward 'Jihadi John'. This abhorrent Muslim fanatic and everything about him, epitomises the word; 'coward':

Whether he was born in Britain is irrelevant. The facts that this pariah is no teenager and that he speaks with a 'thick London accent' substantiates that he was raised in Britain.

So here we have this 'devoted', 'devout' Muslim voluntarily giving up his comfortable, safe life in the civilised, democratic and free country, which embraced his immigrant parents and/or him, to travel to a backward and dangerous, war-torn, foreign country. For what reason? --

Unlike the selfless, compassionate Alan Henning, this evil bastard does not travel there to help fellow suffering humans. Unlike the heroic and courageous Alan Henning, this vile, yellow jackal disguise himself, hides his face, and conceals his identity.

Unlike the caring, charitable Alan Henning, there are no photos of this demented demon giving succour to innocent babies, no evidence of him bending his spineless back and investing physical labour in administering aid to victims of all faiths - Muslims included.

No - this monster has travelled there purely so that he can capitalise on the lawless conditions and freely perpetrate evil without recrimination. This beast is the ultimate COWARD. He was as evil whilst living in London as he is now, and would have perpetrated in London the same atrocities which he does now, but in Britain, we have Law and Order, and in Britain, this despicable, spineless, cowardly, dung beetle would have been caught and made to pay for his barbarism, and he is too much of a yellow bastard to risk that.

Make no mistake; this monster - and all monsters like him - are ultimate COWARDS.

Even far removed as he is from Western Law, he is so utterly TERRIFIED of being identified, that he swathes himself like an Egyptian mummy so that only his evil eyes are showing.

Is it 'heroic' to abduct a peace-loving, 47 year old father of two at gunpoint? Is it 'brave' to tower over him whilst wielding a razor sharp knife and whilst he is already subdued, outnumbered, and bound ? Is it 'valiant' to end a bound, helpless, outnumbered and innocent man's life in such a barbaric fashion? -- No, they are all acts of ultimate COWARDICE.

As I have said in another post, this monster is no 'Holy Warrior' fighting for 'Allah' or for Muslims. He is an evil, cowardly demon using the pretext of fighting for Allah and Muslims in order to be able to carry out the satanic atrocities which are his 'raison d'etre'.

Do we see any eulogies from other Muslims for 'Jihadi John''s works as we do for Alan Henning's? No, only worldwide condemnation. Because even Muslim's KNOW that these monsters who masquerade as 'Allah's Warriors' are but evil, sick sadists who are not carrying out 'God's' works, only their own.

In respect for Alan Henning, and all the other innocent victims of these cowardly fanatics, the British people - of all faiths - and the British Government, should ensure now, that their savage deaths have not been in vain. We need to learn from them and act accordingly.

The actions that need to be taken are twofold.

Seek and Destroy

We must eradicate - once and for all - these monsters. It is time for the 'Iron Fist In The Iron Glove'. Nothing but total annihilation will suffice. We must saturation bomb these bastards, destroy every last refuge where these bastard cowards can hide. Forget 'collateral damage'. It is unavoidable. Then we must send in ground troops and utilise all the technology at our disposal to 'mop up' every last one of these cockroaches.

We do not want prisoners. We should exercise a shoot to kill policy. We do not need 'Nuremberg' style bull**** trials. We need dead enemies. Enemies who cannot ever carry out such atrocities again.

After we have won the war, we must 'Win The Peace'. No matter what the financial cost is, we need to establish a military presence. No matter how long for, we must maintain that presence, not as an 'occupying army' but as 'policemen' to monitor developments, help stabilise the country. This can only work with a massive rebuilding scheme and improvements in education, healthcare etc. and with the cooperation of other Muslim countries.

Domestic Policies

At home, The time is now long overdue to face certain facts - no matter how unpalatable that prospect is. We need to re-evaluate our policies on immigration and Law and Order. *******K the EU.

We have been sending 19 year old boys to fight and die on foreign soil in Afghanistan, Iraq etc. against Islamic terrorist enemies, whilst at the same time, we are OPENLY welcoming increasing numbers of immigrants/'asylum seekers' from Muslim countries, without any real vetting process in place.

The irony here is a bitter one; the majority of these immigrants are young male Muslims - Eastern European included - who have a sneering contempt for the British and our way of life (whilst being only too willing to profit under the benefits of the same).

Hence, there is an ever expanding seedbed of Muslim males which already ensconced Muslim hate mongers can cultivate. Some percentage of these 'recruits' will have the evil disposition necessary to become fully fledged 'Jihadi Johns' once given the training and means.

Thus, while our young men are being maimed or killed whilst fighting Islam terrorists and trying to eradicate them, our Government is wholly culpable in ensuring that there are other Islam Terrorists to replace those killed.

It is particularly galling that the taxes of hard-working British people are going to these parasites in benefit, housing benefits and council tax rebates, while they gather in council houses or flats plotting the destruction of the very people whose way of life is sustaining them.

Can anyone say with certainty that 'Jihad John' was not one of the above beneficiaries of the above?

In my opinion;

We need to reduce all immigration.
Implement more rigorous immigration vetting procedures.
Revoke the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 and reinstate Capital Punishment for crimes of Treason.
Reduce the handouts to immigrants and invest the money saved by increasing our Security and Intelligence Services budgets.

No more Anjem Choudary's, Mizanur Rahman's or Abu Hamza al-Masri's - only their now harmless corpses. No more expense to the tax-payer of the cost of incarceration and lengthy B.S. trials either.

Do not worry about the risk of making 'Martyrs' by the above action - it is propaganda and a fallacy. Who among you remember Bobby Sands?

No -- I didn't think so.

I have always maintained that only 3 things can control a human being; Love, Respect and Fear.

Imagine you are 12 years old and your Father is a physically huge, but loving, kind, moral and considerate man - a good parent. Let's say he detests smoking. As you grow, you - foolishly - become a smoker. One day you go to visit your parents, have Sunday lunch, and are used to having a satisfying after dinner smoke. Your father is now old and frail and wheelchair bound. Do you light up that much needed cigarette? No, of course you don't because you love your father and respect him.

Now let's imagine the same scenario but your father was a drunken violent brute who abused you and your mother. Your father is now old and frail and wheelchair bound. Would you still shirk from lighting up that cigarette? You don't love your father. Don't respect him and no longer fear him.

If you still wouldn't light up, then that's because of your own in-built moral code - not because of of any fear of consequence.

And that is what I mean by only Love, Respect and Fear as being the only 3 factors necessary to control the human being.

This truth is only too evident in our society today. The degeneration of the 'family unit' where good parents rear their children correctly has wrought generation after generation of children who have not been taught by parents the meaning of love or respect - either by example or instruction. Couple this with increasingly higher thresholds in perception of 'unacceptable' behaviour by police, and increasingly lenient sentencing by our law courts, and it is all too easy to see why such lawlessness and anti-social behaviour is now prevalent on our streets.

Youths do not love or respect the police, because they've never been taught to, and with little or no deterrents now, they certainly do not fear them.

Which is exactly the same with these cowardly barbaric Islamic hate-mongers. They do not LOVE us, they do not RESPECT us, and they do not FEAR us.

We can NEVER teach them to love or respect us, so these vile bastards MUST be made to FEAR us. There simply is no other way. They have to fear the CONSEQUENCES of their vile actions

They spout their treasonous bile because this is a democratic and free country where Free Speech is but only one of the liberties we are blessed with, yet would they be as brave or quick to speak if the mandatory sentence for such treason was death?

I'm sorry for the length of this post, but I make no apology for its content - no matter how extreme some may find it. I was moved to tears this morning reading about poor Alan Henning, as I have been recently by the Jamie Bulger documentary, and a couple of other matters, and I am both sickened and incensed by it all.