[tpau21]

right now on LF him and keeva are going at it and just bitching and bitching...dont get me wrong i love abit of bitching its entertaining, however, this conversation is so draining and doesn't help with JJ repeating himself over and over...

[Tamtam]

I thought they were saying a lot of truth actually... I think there is a difference in talking about other people's behaviour sharing views on it and spiteful bitching and I think the two of them fell into the first area more tonight.

Ben's attacks on Mario, part of what they were talking about, were far more pure nasty and vindictive then anything they said tonight to be fair.

I am not a JJ fan by any stretch, but they would actually be hurting the HMs that they were talking about (mainly Ben and Ife) more then Cao/ JJ if they showed that chat, because what they said was in the main the truth with very little malicious exageration.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Tamtam

I thought they were saying a lot of truth actually... I think there is a difference in talking about other people's behaviour sharing views on it and spiteful bitching and I think the two of them fell into the first area more tonight.

Ben's attacks on Mario, part of what they were talking about, were far more pure nasty and vindictive then anything they said tonight to be fair.

I am not a JJ fan by any stretch, but they would actually be hurting the HMs that they were talking about (mainly Ben and Ife) more then Cao/ JJ if they showed that chat, because what they said was in the main the truth with very little malicious exageration.

Bitching is bitching, end of. JJ and Keeva are two of the worst offenders, so don't let's pretend they were just "discussing" and "sharing" their views - what BS!

[Tamtam]

Originally Posted by angus58

Bitching is bitching, end of. JJ and Keeva are two of the worst offenders, so don't let's pretend they were just "discussing" and "sharing" their views - what BS!

your very angry and aggressive in the way that you post, and no 'bitching isnt bitching'... what a shallow and superficial view that is. If you say that you have no understanding of people or situations. I am sorry, but you don't.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Tamtam

I thought they were saying a lot of truth actually... I think there is a difference in talking about other people's behaviour sharing views on it and spiteful bitching and I think the two of them fell into the first area more tonight.

Ben's attacks on Mario, part of what they were talking about, were far more pure nasty and vindictive then anything they said tonight to be fair.

I am not a JJ fan by any stretch, but they would actually be hurting the HMs that they were talking about (mainly Ben and Ife) more then Cao/ JJ if they showed that chat, because what they said was in the main the truth with very little malicious exageration.

Now THERE's a surprise JJ talking about Ben,the guy is obsessed with him,and what are people on about Bens 'attacks' on mario what attacks,lol,more bias i see.

[Tamtam]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Now THERE's a surprise JJ talking about Ben,the guy is obsessed with him,and what are people on about Bens 'attacks' on mario what attacks,lol,more bias i see.

'Bias' as in it's a view I personally hold? Well yes then I have a bias... Of course I do, we all do, including you. I was just talking about the conversation though, did you actually watch it?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Tamtam

'Bias' as in it's a view I personally hold? Well yes then I have a bias... Of course I do, we all do, including you. I was just talking about the conversation though, did you actually watch it?

Someone said Ben 'attacks' mario,I wanted to know how so?as in the title thread"Channel 4 not showing JJ's nasty bitchy side" well lets face it they only have one hour!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Tamtam

I thought they were saying a lot of truth actually... I think there is a difference in talking about other people's behaviour sharing views on it and spiteful bitching and I think the two of them fell into the first area more tonight.

Ben's attacks on Mario, part of what they were talking about, were far more pure nasty and vindictive then anything they said tonight to be fair.

I am not a JJ fan by any stretch, but they would actually be hurting the HMs that they were talking about (mainly Ben and Ife) more then Cao/ JJ if they showed that chat, because what they said was in the main the truth with very little malicious exageration.

still waiting for the 'attacks' on mario examples

[arsenalforever]

Originally Posted by kazanne

still waiting for the 'attacks' on mario examples

Ben always gets attacked with any little thing he does from his haters

The reason JJ nasty side isn't shown simply cause he's the chosen one for the BB producers

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

The reason JJ nasty side isn't shown simply cause he's the chosen one for the BB producers

Ain't that the truth. Ziggy all over again.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Ain't that the truth. Ziggy all over again.

Everyone hated Ziggy though

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Tamtam

I thought they were saying a lot of truth actually... I think there is a difference in talking about other people's behaviour sharing views on it and spiteful bitching and I think the two of them fell into the first area more tonight.

Ben's attacks on Mario, part of what they were talking about, were far more pure nasty and vindictive then anything they said tonight to be fair.

I am not a JJ fan by any stretch, but they would actually be hurting the HMs that they were talking about (mainly Ben and Ife) more then Cao/ JJ if they showed that chat, because what they said was in the main the truth with very little malicious exageration.

Absolutly agree... I have said this before..people talk about each other..its human nature.Bitching is when you start talikng the piss out of someone or calling them names behind their backs.
We all come on this forum and talk about them.... does that make us bitchy...NO.Although some people on this forum are bitchy when personal stuff starts getting used.

[Jase.]

Ugh. JJ makes me sick.

[starry]

They can't really see the truth about themselves and that is the most important thing.

But I've pretty much stopped watching now anyway, except eviction interviews and maybe save and replace task (crap one this week though).

[Visage]

Ugh. JJ makes me laugh.

[powohwow]

I think they are showing it quite a lot!

[Zippy]

JJ Crybaby and Cameltoe the phoney hoe are the most boring bitches to watch. Both devious game players and tactitions. Both followers who need a shepherd to lead them. That'll be Josie.

I just switch over tbh. Zzzzz to them both.

[powohwow]

Yes Josie is a leader but I don't think he's boring to watch... he's rather dishy ey ey...mm

[karezza]

Crab Eyes makes my skin crawl - all he does is stir & bitch & over-analyse.

[Niamh.]

Get a grip, Ife bitches loads as does Ben (probably more than anyone) and so does Corin. The only reason you're giving out about JJ doing it, is because you don't like him.

[arsenalforever]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Get a grip, Ife bitches loads as does Ben (probably more than anyone) and so does Corin. The only reason you're giving out about JJ doing it, is because you don't like him.

you get over it JJ bitches worse then anyone
your just blind to his aussie pecks

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

you get over it JJ bitches worse then anyone
your just blind to his aussie pecks

Caoimhe, Josie and Ben bitch as much if not more than JJ

[arsenalforever]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Caoimhe, Josie and Ben bitch as much if not more than JJ

no way
JJ is king bitch of the bitches
he's the most paranoid of hm's i ever saw
which makes him a good hm

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Caoimhe, Josie and Ben bitch as much if not more than JJ

Ben is in the nest bitching all day long!!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

you get over it JJ bitches worse then anyone
your just blind to his aussie pecks

haha, his legs are too skinny for my liking though! He is attractive but not exactly my ideal man or anything, I do genuinely just find him an interesting HM!