[Crimson Dynamo]

It kills, it lies, it deludes and it makes billions. Do we respect it or should we hound it out?

[Zippy]

Its not a question of respecting religion. Its about respecting the right of others to believe whatever gives them comfort or answers. Even if theyre deluded.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Its not a question of respecting religion. Its about respecting the right of others to believe whatever gives them comfort or answers. Even if theyre deluded.

[bananarama]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Its not a question of respecting religion. Its about respecting the right of others to believe whatever gives them comfort or answers. Even if theyre deluded.

The problem with that logic is that religious people more often than not don't respect the none religious or indeed those virgin to religion.

Religious people in positions of power will indulge their version of society onto others. Religious parents will indoctronate their children (often refered to as being raised with a particular religion) Inspite of the fact nothing they believe in can be proven and children are vunerable to being groomed with all sorts of rubbish.

As a result of the above comments I have made I conclude that deluded people of any sort should not be respected neither should their deluded beliefs.......

Anyone who takes advantage and grooms children with beliefs that cannot be proven deserves the most utter contempt one can give them....

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by bananarama

The problem with that logic is that religious people more often than not don't respect the none religious or indeed those virgin to religion.

More generalised nonsense.

[bananarama]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

More generalised nonsense.

Of which you are clearly an expert by making such a lack of detailed response with no intellectual satus what so ever...I feel sorry for people like you as you contribute nothing to a debate

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by bananarama

Of which you are clearly an expert by making such a lack of detailed response with no intellectual satus what so ever...I feel sorry for people like you as you contribute nothing to a debate

And you do contribute to the debate? Coming in at the last minute to make a comment on all religious people based off a couple of your own examples.

As I said before, unfair generalisation. And calling my posts a generalisation shows you don't understand anything in this thread.

Satus is not a word. And whatsoever is all one word. Just a tip.

[joeysteele]

No religion,like most anything else in life should get respect unless it earns it.That goes for people who have religious beliefs and all people and institutions in general too.

[Marsh.]

Does a tramp deserve respect?
Does a millionaire deserve respect?
Does a mother deserve respect?
Does opinions deserve respect?
Do differences deserve respect?

Yes, yes, yes, yes and yes.

And evidently religion is used as an excuse for people like Bin Laden to fulfil their own selfish ends.

Decent people who just so happen to share certain beliefs about Gods and the afterlife should be left to do as they please, as should non believers and agnostics.

There's a difference between you rightfully disagreeing with their beliefs and unnecessarily ridiculing people for daring to not see things as you do.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Does a tramp deserve respect?
Does a millionaire deserve respect?
Does a mother deserve respect?
Does opinions deserve respect?
Do differences deserve respect?

Yes, yes, yes, yes and yes.

And evidently religion is used as an excuse for people like Bin Laden to fulfil their own selfish ends.

Decent people who just so happen to share certain beliefs about Gods and the afterlife should be left to do as they please, as should non believers and agnostics.

There's a difference between you rightfully disagreeing with their beliefs and unnecessarily ridiculing people for daring to not see things as you do.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Chewy

[LaLaLand]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Does a tramp deserve respect?
Does a millionaire deserve respect?
Does a mother deserve respect?
Does opinions deserve respect?
Do differences deserve respect?

Yes, yes, yes, yes and yes.

And evidently religion is used as an excuse for people like Bin Laden to fulfil their own selfish ends.

Decent people who just so happen to share certain beliefs about Gods and the afterlife should be left to do as they please, as should non believers and agnostics.

There's a difference between you rightfully disagreeing with their beliefs and unnecessarily ridiculing people for daring to not see things as you do.

Touché!

[Zippy]

jehova's witness: Knock, Knock, "sh!t happens"

[Crimson Dynamo]

Should we respect a religion that lies to children and tells them they will go to hell if they are bad and that a man died for them because they are sinners?

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Should we respect a religion that lies to children and tells them they will go to hell if they are bad and that a man died for them because they are sinners?

If you don't respect it then choose not to subscribe to it. Simples.

Or are you asking if it should be banned? Now that's very different.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Should we respect a religion that lies to children and tells them they will go to hell if they are bad and that a man died for them because they are sinners?

I'm sorry, are you going for the broad religious pool which is very vast or making specifications? Do make it clearer.

Or are you someone who lumps everyone in the same boxes just so your insults and assumptions seem stronger?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

I'm sorry, are you going for the broad religious pool which is very vast or making specifications? Do make it clearer.

Or are you someone who lumps everyone in the same boxes just so your insults and assumptions seem stronger?

jesus H christ. your points dont get any clearer do they. spit it out.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

jesus H christ. your points dont get any clearer do they. spit it out.

You're bashing "RELIGION". All religions are different and have different values.

So, throwing out insults and offensive remarks to "a religion" doesn't hold any water until you're specific.

Can your hard drive process that information or is your bandwidth limited?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

You're bashing "RELIGION". All religions are different and have different values.

So, throwing out insults and offensive remarks to "a religion" doesn't hold any water until you're specific.

Can your hard drive process that information or is your bandwidth limited?

All religions lie to children (maybe not Buddhism) but we are dealing, as others have worked out, with the main religions here.

[Vicky.]

I do not believe in forcing religion on children. I was made to go to sunday school and learn about god and stuff, and I knew from a very young age that it was a load of bollocks, yet still had to go.

But yes, if people decide to follow it...their CHOICE should be respected. I dont necessarily respect religion in general and the lies it tells/problems it seems to cause but if it gived others hope and that, then whats the problem?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I do not believe in forcing religion on children. I was made to go to sunday school and learn about god and stuff, and I knew from a very young age that it was a load of bollocks, yet still had to go.

But yes, if people decide to follow it...their CHOICE should be respected. I dont necessarily respect religion in general and the lies it tells/problems it seems to cause but if it gived others hope and that, then whats the problem?

are you saying that you dont think that the main religions cause problems in the world?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

are you saying that you dont think that the main religions cause problems in the world?

I think people who cause trouble tend to hide behind religion to try and justify themselves.

In general, I would say it does more good than harm.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I think people who cause trouble tend to hide behind religion to try and justify themselves.

In general, I would say it does more good than harm.

Nail, banged on the head.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I think people who cause trouble tend to hide behind religion to try and justify themselves.

In general, I would say it does more good than harm.

Very strong post, very reasoned.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

In general, I would say it does more good than harm.

I'd say vice versa tbh

just the issue of contraception and safe sex alone has caused millions of unnecessary deaths. Religion certainly doesn't encourage an open mind.