[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I do not believe in forcing religion on children. I was made to go to sunday school and learn about god and stuff, and I knew from a very young age that it was a load of bollocks, yet still had to go.

But yes, if people decide to follow it...their CHOICE should be respected. I dont necessarily respect religion in general and the lies it tells/problems it seems to cause but if it gived others hope and that, then whats the problem?

are you saying that you dont think that the main religions cause problems in the world?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

are you saying that you dont think that the main religions cause problems in the world?

I think people who cause trouble tend to hide behind religion to try and justify themselves.

In general, I would say it does more good than harm.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I think people who cause trouble tend to hide behind religion to try and justify themselves.

In general, I would say it does more good than harm.

Nail, banged on the head.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I think people who cause trouble tend to hide behind religion to try and justify themselves.

In general, I would say it does more good than harm.

Very strong post, very reasoned.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

In general, I would say it does more good than harm.

I'd say vice versa tbh

just the issue of contraception and safe sex alone has caused millions of unnecessary deaths. Religion certainly doesn't encourage an open mind.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I think people who cause trouble tend to hide behind religion to try and justify themselves.

In general, I would say it does more good than harm.

What good does it do?

Do you know how much real estate the catholic church have for example (billions)?

and yet every day they preach about Jesus who taught people to give up wealth and give it to the poor?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

What good does it do?

Do you know how much real estate the catholic church have for example (billions)?

and yet every day they preach about Jesus who taught people to give up wealth and give it to the poor?

Agreed about the financial side. Churches seem out only to get money. I remember when I was young and was dragged along to church with my grandma, twice a week she used to put 20 quid in the collection, but one week she was a bit skint so put a fiver in instead...and the ****ing glare she got was unbelievable, she was actually asked where her 'usual' contribution' was...I think thats taking the mick to be honest, a fivers still a lot more than most would put in.

Anyways, the good it does...it gives hope to those who would have nothing. I know most religions teach ignorance and intolerance, but for every homophobe born out of christianity, theres 10 little old women welcoming death rather than being scared because they think that they are going to meet god or something like that. Personally I think there is nothing at all after death but if it helps those on their deathbed, who am I to begrudge them that.

Not everyone follows the religious teachings to a tee these days anyway, I think you would be hard pushed to find someone who lived their life totally according to the bible or whatever. Everything has its good points and bad points.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Personally I think there is nothing at all after death but if it helps those on their deathbed, who am I to begrudge them that.

that's what I think and I'm very happy to think that. Nothing there, nothing to fear.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

are you saying that you dont think that the main religions cause problems in the world?

With people who use religion as an excuse for their evil deeds and ruin the reputation of the genuine everyday believer? Yes.