[arista]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-children.html

Get Every Penny Back
And Punish the 41 year old.


Its like she could be on Shameless Ch4HD Episode

[Niamh.]

How is that even possible? Surely you need to produce birth certificates for any children you claim for?

[thesheriff443]

more than likely done on line,

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

more than likely done on line,

fake birth certs?

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

fake birth certs?

no, i dont think you need them,they try to make the system easier for people to use,but then it gets abused.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

no, i dont think you need them,they try to make the system easier for people to use,but then it gets abused.

Oh really? That's stupid, you need them here. Infact for childrens allowance (which everyone is entitled to) they've even started sending out forms to all parents of kids receiving benefits asking them for the childs school and which class they're in to clamp down on people who don't even live in the country anymore but continue to claim.

[Marc]

invented?! what the hell

[Marc]

For single mothers aged 13 who can't think for themselves

[Marc]

Niamh told me she had 15 children from what I've seen she's only got 2

[thesheriff443]

its different departments,and they dont share the imformation,only when something comes to light do they investigate.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marc

Niamh told me she had 15 children from what I've seen she's only got 2

The other 13 are ginger so they're not allowed to be photographed

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

its different departments,and they dont share the imformation,only when something comes to light do they investigate.

It just seems incredibly ridiculous that you wouldn't have to produce birth certs when applying though.

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The other 13 are ginger so they're not allowed to be photographed

those poor children. though I'm not surprised, they must be all disgusting and pale and just eurghh grim. you must be able to claim disability benefits for them?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marc

those poor children. though I'm not surprised, they must be all disgusting and pale and just eurghh grim. you must be able to claim disability benefits for them?

Yes, we get a monthly hair dye allowance for them and some free hats

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes, we get a monthly hair dye allowance for them and some free hats

can I get some?!

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

why didnt i think of this

[thesheriff443]

she should of done it the legal way and pushed ten out,lol

[thesheriff443]

true, but they always get caught in the end as this case shows.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

true, but they always get caught in the end as this case shows.

do they though? I know at least four mums who make a claim basing it on the fact that they have no partner yet the partner lives there and earns a wage. That way they don't have to declare his income.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

do they though? I know at least four mums who make a claim basing it on the fact that they have no partner yet the partner lives there and earns a wage. That way they don't have to declare his income.

Well, that's a different scenario all together, harder to prove that then prove that 10 of your children don't exist

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, that's a different scenario all together, harder to prove that then prove that 10 of your children don't exist

lol well yeah I did kinda jump the gun there it's not really related

[Angus]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

do they though? I know at least four mums who make a claim basing it on the fact that they have no partner yet the partner lives there and earns a wage. That way they don't have to declare his income.

If you are sure about that, you should report them. It's people like that who scrounge off society that prevent those who really need help from getting it. It seems having kids propels you to the top of any priority list for handouts, which is why so many people keep on having them when they can't afford to look after them without claiming benefits.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Angus

If you are sure about that, you should report them. It's people like that who scrounge off society that prevent those who really need help from getting it. It seems having kids propels you to the top of any priority list for handouts, which is why so many people keep on having them when they can't afford to look after them without claiming benefits.

I'd never do such a thing, and frankly, although I don't condone what they are doing I do tend to think these people are used as scapegoats to a certain extent to keep our eyes focused away from the rich and the scams they get up to.

Divide and rule, divide and rule..

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I'd never do such a thing, and frankly, although I don't condone what they are doing I do tend to think these people are used as scapegoats to a certain extent to keep our eyes focused away from the rich and the scams they get up to.

Divide and rule, divide and rule..

[Angus]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I'd never do such a thing, and frankly, although I don't condone what they are doing I do tend to think these people are used as scapegoats to a certain extent to keep our eyes focused away from the rich and the scams they get up to.

Divide and rule, divide and rule..

What muddled thinking! To paraphrase a famous quotation "all it takes for fraud to flourish is for people to turn a blind eye". It's precisely because of scroungers defrauding the system that scarce resources are misdirected and those who truly need help can't get it. I would report a scrounging scumbag in a heartbeat, and not go around polishing my halo for not "grassing up" said scumbag, or pontificating about notional scams which might or might not be perpetrated by "rich" people, when you have actual scamming going on under your very nose of which you are fully aware.

Fraud is fraud whoever is committing it. Being poor doesn't give you licence to go around thieving and defrauding the system. From the sound of it the women you are talking about are NOT poor, they have working partners, and are just greedy, con artists.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

true, but they always get caught in the end as this case shows.

Yeah but it just seems like a much more simple way to prevent it happening at all would be just produce the birth cert when applying