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Old 04-04-2012, 01:25 PM #1
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What makes a child do this?...
Can anyone truly be born evil?
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time to axe coronation street
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He Also watched Adult 18 rated saw Movies.


Feck All to do with that ITV1HD Soap.


That Kid was out of control
Private School is what got him into Evil.
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He Also watched Adult 18 rated saw Movies.


Feck All to do with that ITV1HD Soap.


That Kid was out of control
Private School is what got him into Evil.
Really? Omg! That's bad! The horror movies i watched as a kid were heavily edited and not that bad. Like The Exorcist and The Omen.
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He Also watched Adult 18 rated saw Movies.


Feck All to do with that ITV1HD Soap.


That Kid was out of control
Private School is what got him into Evil.
How can you say private school got him into evil? What a load of bloody nonsense.
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How can you say private school got him into evil? What a load of bloody nonsense.
In his case with his Dad gone
and a Private School
he had no warm feelings for his mother.
So its being sent there changed him
thats how I can say it.


Now others that go to a Private School
will have no problems like this.
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He Also watched Adult 18 rated saw Movies.


Feck All to do with that ITV1HD Soap.


That Kid was out of control
Private School is what got him into Evil.

I'm sorry, but PMSL that you felt the need to reiterate Coronation Street airs on ITV1 in HD in such a thread.
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I'm sorry, but PMSL that you felt the need to reiterate Coronation Street airs on ITV1 in HD in such a thread.
I was the same as you.
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No one is 'born evil'. And programmes like Coronation Street don't influence everybody to go out and start murdering people.

Some people are easily influenced, others are not. You can't really predict things like this, and as sad as it is, it doesn't mean we should start axing programmes or suggesting that people are simply 'born evil'. It's the same as the whole debate over whether violent video games make people violent, i.e. just dumb.
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Jesus, how anyone can do this to anyone, let alone your own mother is beyond me. I don't think TV or film can be blamed for this. He was clearly unstable and anything could have triggered it off, it's a shame they didn't identify his instability sooner.
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It's very sad though. Hope the kid gets looked at and gets some help, it's quite evident he needs it.
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It's very sad though. Hope the kid gets looked at and gets some help, it's quite evident he needs it.

We should not wast one moment more on insane trash like that......There are worthy people that don't get help instead of worrying about a lunatic that should be hung.......
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He doesn't deserve help. He deserves to be locked up for many, many decades to come.
Sick bastard.
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Sick bastard.
This, I like your approach Patrick.

I say axe the bastard.
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He was watching films that he was meant to be protected from. There is a film classicifaction for a reason. Only parents are responsible for what their kids watch. Having said that, I don't think watching films or playing games can make someone violent. It may desensitise them to it, but I don't think it would make them commit murder. Otherwise, surely anyone reading Edgar Allen Poe a hundred plus years ago would surely have been urged to go out and kill.

I think anyone who can kill hos mother with a hammer, then lay clues to try to deceive the police is a very sick individual who will probably never recover, and should never be returned to society.
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..I don't believe people are born evil..I don't know why he was allowed to watch violent horror films when he was 8..but the fact that he even wanted to..should have raised some alarm bells..but I'm not judging on that..it just may have got some much needed help..I don't know how much difference that would have made..if any at all
This is a very sad story..and I feel very sad for him too..I know what he did was horrific..and for that he will pay the price...but he must have been a very unhappy boy
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People might not be born evil but they can be born without a conscience that leads to evil. Their envioment plays the part to what that evil may be. I agree with Livia, he should never be allowed back into society.
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I watched horror films like 'Nightmare on Elm Street' when I was a kid and read adult horror books also, I was obsessed with horror, I still am, yet I never went went and murdered anyone. This kid clearly has issues in the head, ones that would have found some way to come out in a violent form eventually.
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I read how he wrote a story about a boy who killed his mother with a hammer before all of this.

The boy is twisted.
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I read how he wrote a story about a boy who killed his mother with a hammer before all of this.

The boy is twisted.
..apparently it was based on a Corrie story..but he changed the names to his and his mums..it seemed to have been a planned thing..even though it started with an argument...it's very disturbing
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I hope this dude is never set free on society again...
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Hmmm..look at the killers of James Bulger
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On this case the Mother had no Idea
her kid was going to murder her.

He tried hard to cover it all up
by burning his mother after the Evil Hammer blows.
So maybe some CSI shows in that bit.
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On this case the Mother had no Idea
her kid was going to murder her.

He tried hard to cover it all up
by burning his mother after the Evil Hammer blows.
So maybe some CSI shows in that bit.
..I guess 'bits' of a lot of things will have influenced an already troubled mind..he was obviously fascinated with violence..murder..death..it's a shame no one spotted something amiss..but I don't know what you would be looking for
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And I also hope they don't show soaps in whatever prison/confinement they send him to.
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