[InOne]

All there seems to be is people comparing the new to old, or getting at the presenter, or the production, or the crowd. I don't think it's been that bad with Ch5. The first one wasn't great, but the normal one was pretty good and the celeb one was even better than that. They even cut down on the editing as well, so felt like "old" BB at times.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

100% yes.

[Smithy]

turned into?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Smithy

turned into?

Well, I suppose it's only after BB10 finished I started noticing it. With BB11

[arista]

Originally Posted by Smithy

turned into?

Yes True
once a whiner - always a whiner.

[RichardG]

I think if people find things about the show that they don't like they should be able to complain, even more so if they're genuine fans and just want to improve something to make the show better. That being said, some people seem to have nothing but negative things to say about it and that's what I hate. Theres voicing your opinion and then there's just being annoying.

[Kizzy]

I still love it whatever

[Vicky.]

smithy [2]

[Patrick]

The thing about Big Brother, another reason it's so special is because it has one of the most loyal fan bases. Especially in the UK where if something's wrong with the show, we voice our opinion.
And if anything Endemol and Channel 5 should be over the moon that we as fans express ourselves so much and let them know what's working and what's not working, we're not whining - although some people who had a problem over the new eye, need to get a grip.

But yeah, we're just very very passionate and want the show to do well.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Patrick

The thing about Big Brother, another reason it's so special is because it has one of the most loyal fan bases. Especially in the UK where if something's wrong with the show, we voice our opinion.
And if anything Endemol and Channel 5 should be over the moon that we as fans express ourselves so much and let them know what's working and what's not working, we're not whining - although some people who had a problem over the new eye, need to get a grip.

But yeah, we're just very very passionate and want the show to do well.

Very interesting. Your whining is constructive criticism, but anyone who criticises something you like needs to get a grip?

Hmmm.

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Very interesting. Your whining is constructive criticism, but anyone who criticises something you like needs to get a grip?

Hmmm.

No, obviously you can have an opinion on the eye that's fine. But the people that are like 'I don't get why you're all happy with it, it's horrible. Worst eye ever' Are just being over the top ******ing bints who are looking for something to cry about.

Compare it to BB2, BB4 and BB12 and it's clearly not the worst eye ever - and by far better than last year's anyway.
So whilst it's fine to not like the eye, there's no need for people acting like it's THAT bad.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Patrick

No, obviously you can have an opinion on the eye that's fine. But the people that are like 'I don't get why you're all happy with it, it's horrible. Worst eye ever' Are just being over the top ******ing bints who are looking for something to cry about.

Compare it to BB2, BB4 and BB12 and it's clearly not the worst eye ever - and by far better than last year's anyway.
So whilst it's fine to not like the eye, there's no need for people acting like it's THAT bad.

No offence Patrick, but this sounds like you in January when they reused the same BB12/CBB8 eye. Just saying.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Patrick

No, obviously you can have an opinion on the eye that's fine. But the people that are like 'I don't get why you're all happy with it, it's horrible. Worst eye ever' Are just being over the top ******ing bints who are looking for something to cry about.

.
So whilst it's fine to not like the eye, there's no need for people acting like it's THAT bad.

And that's their opinion..... no need to go about insulting people because they dislike something you happen to like: it's them having THEIR opinion, which is also fine. They can 'cry' about whatever they want to, however they like: it's how THEY feel and they have a right to that too.

[Flamingjoe]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Very interesting. Your whining is constructive criticism, but anyone who criticises something you like needs to get a grip?

Hmmm.

[2]

[arista]

Originally Posted by Patrick

The thing about Big Brother, another reason it's so special is because it has one of the most loyal fan bases. Especially in the UK where if something's wrong with the show, we voice our opinion.
And if anything Endemol and Channel 5 should be over the moon that we as fans express ourselves so much and let them know what's working and what's not working, we're not whining - although some people who had a problem over the new eye, need to get a grip.

But yeah, we're just very very passionate and want the show to do well.

They are
as higher viewer amounts start.

So Ch5HD should stick with this for longer.

[Marsh.]

TBH, I make comments over the set, the staging, the presenters etc but if only they got the cast right it'd be a blast. If we end up with another bunch of fame hungry 20 somethings I'm not bothering.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

TBH, I make comments over the set, the staging, the presenters etc but if only they got the cast right it'd be a blast. If we end up with another bunch of fame hungry 20 somethings I'm not bothering.

Every BB auditionee is fame obsessed. When are people going to get this into their thick heads?

People go on BB for one thing....FAME.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Every BB auditionee is fame obsessed. When are people going to get this into their thick heads?

People go on BB for one thing....FAME.

Wow, thanks for the insult.

And, yes, I'm well aware. It's one of the reasons BB is now crap. But there are plenty people wanting to go in that aren't 20 something and tangoed.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Wow, thanks for the insult.

And, yes, I'm well aware. It's one of the reasons BB is now crap. But there are plenty people wanting to go in that aren't 20 something and tangoed.

BB isnt "crap" though

You're just being a whiner lol.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

BB isnt "crap" though

You're just being a whiner lol.

IMO it is.

BIB - Sue me.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Every BB auditionee is fame obsessed. When are people going to get this into their thick heads?

People go on BB for one thing....FAME.

You auditioned to get in didn't you........ by default then: you are one of those fame obsessed.

Last year's winner wasn't fame obsessed.

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

. When are people going to get this into their thick heads?

No need for the insults btw. People are entitled to their opinions without you disparaging them.

[Jords]

wat

[armand.kay]

It must be working because when we moaned about the voting they changed it to vote to save, we moaned about the eye it changed also the editing changed and Marcus seemed more tame after we moaned. Now whether they are listening to use (to a extent) or just luck I don't know.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

It must be working because when we moaned about the voting they changed it to vote to save, we moaned about the eye it changed also the editing changed and Marcus seemed more tame after we moaned. Now whether they are listening to use (to a extent) or just luck I don't know.

Then people moaned they wanted it back again. lol

[InOne]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Then people moaned they wanted it back again. lol

Yep. Seems BB can't win either way most of the time