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Old 20-08-2013, 11:24 AM #1
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Besides Aaron (and that was mostly due to facebook voting tbh) a controversial and entertaining housemate has never really won Big Brother, at least not in recent years. This is a major problem because if people want to win the 100k they have to play a similar game to what Sam, Luke A, etc have played and remain uncontroversial *cough* boring *cough*. If you were an upcoming housemate with any general knowledge of past shows, you would know this as well. So it is actually smarter for them to play low radar and not cause any conflict/entertainment. This leads to a more boring show, but you can hardly blame the housemates for it since they most likely went on the show to win the money.

Is there any way to fix this problem, or are you happy that a 'good' person usually wins at the end, no matter if they appeared on HL shows an average of 2 mins per episode.

And what does it mean for future seasons when this type of gameplay is rewarded every single year?
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Just shows that even in a game show the public don't tolerate sly and sneaky people. It would be like wanting the bad guys to win in the next batman film.
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Just shows that even in a game show the public don't tolerate sly and sneaky people. It would be like wanting the bad guys to win in the next batman film.
but why does the public shot itself in the foot time and time again by voting for the bores and then will go onto complain a show is boring?
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but why does the public shot itself in the foot time and time again by voting for the bores and then will go onto complain a show is boring?
Nobody's complained you can't make things like that up, plenty of nice guys have won before and I enjoyed this big brother.

Don't worry yourself, big brother will always put nasty people in the house that won't ever change.
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Nobody's complained you can't make things like that up, plenty of nice guys have won before and I enjoyed this big brother.

Don't worry yourself, big brother will always put nasty people in the house that won't ever change.
people complain that it is boring all the time, after the controversial housemates go. It has happened for the past 10 plus years
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people complain that it is boring all the time, after the controversial housemates go. It has happened for the past 10 plus years
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Just shows that even in a game show the public don't tolerate sly and sneaky people. It would be like wanting the bad guys to win in the next batman film.
There are no good guys or bad guys though, it's just a house of people who like or don't like each other. If you do relatively little, you can't be too disliked by the public or other housemates to get evicted. Being interesting is a deterrent to winning, not an aid, as it should be.
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There are no good guys or bad guys though, it's just a house of people who like or don't like each other. If you do relatively little, you can't be too disliked by the public or other housemates to get evicted. Being interesting is a deterrent to winning, not an aid, as it should be.
No it's not, do you think the public pick the most boring housemate repeatedly just to piss you off?

Very good though i might add that to the top 5 best excuses list.
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No it's not, do you think the public pick the most boring housemate repeatedly just to piss you off?

Very good though i might add that to the top 5 best excuses list.
What? This isn't an excuse, it happens all the time. Housemates that do relatively little won't get nominated, and if they do, they won't be evicted. Then when they get through to the final, they normally win because every decent HM has been evicted (See BB10 and BB11). For me personally, Sam's win was probably down to a mix of the vote between Gina and Dexter being split and the fact a lot of watchers found him attractive.

It's much harder to be disliked for doing nothing than to be disliked for doing something, you cannot deny that, surely?
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The solution is to bring back the FB voting, I don't get why they stopped it tbh. I don't mind nice people winning if they're entertaining (Brian Dowling BB2) but that's a rarity it seems. Nice usually equals not very interesting to watch
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Bring back them facebook votes and vote to save
Yeah, can't believe they changed it to 3+ with the most votes but then switched back to VTE
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Yeah, can't believe they changed it to 3+ with the most votes but then switched back to VTE
They are like half way going in the right direction with at least 3+ people up every week..just need that little extra push to make it VTS...they probably make more money on VTE though
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I think public voting should be thrown out all together, and a select few Big Brother knowledgeable people should be put on a council that goes on to pick a evictee/winner based of a complex formula of entrainment value
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its a massive flaw, if sam wasn't deaf he wouldn't of won and wouldn't of even made the final. being a bore wont mean your win you need to have a medical problem of some kind
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sad it is. ruins the whole show. when you know the winner from the vt on launch nights

i hate bores the world is full of them though. i got to concerts and im the only one dancing lol 100k people all bores. mind you thats before the band starts lol
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What you have to realise about the British (and Niamh), is that we have, built within our DNA, a history of public floggings and executions.

We get blood lust and lose our minds. We'd rather throw cabbages and tomatoes at a "baddie" for one night, than provide ourselves with 3 months of entertainment.

We let ourselves down continually when it comes to this attitude, and ruin the show year after year.
 
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What you have to realise about the British (and Niamh), is that we have, built within our DNA, a history of public floggings and executions.

We get blood lust and lose our minds. We'd rather throw cabbages and tomatoes at a "baddie" for one night, than provide ourselves with 3 months of entertainment.

We let ourselves down continually when it comes to this attitude, and ruin the show year after year.
Yes how dare we like nice people. How very nice of us.
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Yes how dare we like nice people. How very nice of us.
Eviction nights on BB are about "evicting the baddie". They are never about keeping the entertainment in (at least with VTE).

Like any housemates you want, it's no concern of mine. I haven't really had a favourite this year - I liked Charlie at the start for a few weeks, then lost a bit of interest, and I've been increasingly favoring Dexter over the last couple of weeks, but I haven't slagged off any other HM's off, and have been fairly ambivalent to all of them.

I'm just trying to provide Roy with a reason that we like our pound of flesh on eviction night.
 
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What you have to realise about the British (and Niamh), is that we have, built within our DNA, a history of public floggings and executions.

We get blood lust and lose our minds. We'd rather throw cabbages and tomatoes at a "baddie" for one night, than provide ourselves with 3 months of entertainment.

We let ourselves down continually when it comes to this attitude, and ruin the show year after year.
the public are basically sabotaging their own show, no wonder you guys lost all your world power and are now irrelevant
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I agree. We should never have given the brown people their countries back.
 
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Another ignorant yank trying to make Brits feel pathetic, concentrate on your own country's troubles before trying to point out ours.
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Another ignorant yank trying to make Brits feel pathetic, concentrate on your own country's troubles before trying to point out ours.
the United States has no problems
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They need to be more careful with the housemate selection process. No more Sam types.
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