[GypsyGoth]

If you disliked her, are you starting to find her more likeable lately?

[Vicky.]

Not at all

[Vanessa]

I've always liked her. She reminds me of Charley.

[Samm]

Nope, but I like the drama she starts

[Niamh.]

No, she's vile

[Drew.]

She gets worse if anything.

[billy123]

I wouldnt go that far but i think there are a few cracks starting to appear in her armour that have showed a human side.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by bobnot

I wouldnt go that far but i think there are a few cracks starting to appear in her armour that have showed a human side.

I would agree with this.

[Marsh.]

No.

I think we're starting to understand her a bit more, we're seeing a couple of other sides to her which is good but she isn't a likeable presence tbh.

[Pink Pegasus]

Her behaviour is appalling at times. I would detest her if I was living in the house with her.

However I must admit there's part of me that feels sorry for her. She has MASSIVE anger issues and possibly a drinking problem too. I don't think she is able to control her emotions at all. She comes across as a pretty messed up individual , who just doesn't even know how to change and sometimes seems very annoyed with herself/her own reactions. A bit lost and lashing out all the time.

I always feel sorry for her targets though who bear the savage and cruel brunt of all her built up anger. She can be quite the bully which is very uncomfortable to watch.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by xPinkpegasusx

Her behaviour is appalling at times. I would detest her if I was living in the house with her.

However I must admit there's part of me that feels sorry for her. She has MASSIVE anger issues and possibly a drinking problem too. I don't think she is able to control her emotions at all. She comes across as a pretty messed up individual , who just doesn't even know how to change and sometimes seems very annoyed with herself/her own reactions. A bit lost and lashing out all the time.

I always feel sorry for her targets though who bear the savage and cruel brunt of all her built up anger. She can be quite the bully which is very uncomfortable to watch.

..yeah I pretty much agree with this Pinkpegasus..and hey btw, I always enjoy reading your thoughts about housemates...I think she is a fairly messed up person and you can often see her frustrations with herself but she can't control it so no matter how much she's aware of her flaws, she just keeps disappointing herself so I think her 'self hatred' is a vicious circle and just goes on and on...there are certain things that I feel empathy for and I think she's probably had a pretty tough life and has had to have a mind set of 'self preservation' and survival so is fairly much a 'fighter' and assumes everyone is against her ..and in a way they are/we are but that's because she self destructs and lashes out at others in the process....anyway I might be completely wrong about all of that and it's all her 'outside of the house' life anyway and in the house, no matter what her reasons/psychology/life etc, the results are the same in that she's fairly awful and harsh to people and is just an extreme negative person...and yeah, you could also describe her as a bit of a bully and that's never good to watch....

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah I pretty much agree with this Pinkpegasus..and hey btw, I always enjoy reading your thoughts about housemates...I think she is a fairly messed up person and you can often see her frustrations with herself but she can't control it so no matter how much she's aware of her flaws, she just keeps disappointing herself so I think her 'self hatred' is a vicious circle and just goes on and on...there are certain things that I feel empathy for and I think she's probably had a pretty tough life and has had to have a mind set of 'self preservation' and survival so is fairly much a 'fighter' and assumes everyone is against her ..and in a way they are/we are but that's because she self destructs and lashes out at others in the process....anyway I might be completely wrong about all of that and it's all her 'outside of the house' life anyway and in the house, no matter what her reasons/psychology/life etc, the results are the same in that she's fairly awful and harsh to people and is just an extreme negative person...and yeah, you could also describe her as a bit of a bully and that's never good to watch....

I completely agree with this. Things that have happened in her life have shaped the person she is and that's not a likeable person. That's no excuse and she could address the issues she has but we've seen the odd chink in her armour that shows deep down there is a heart.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I completely agree with this. Things that have happened in her life have shaped the person she is and that's not a likeable person. That's no excuse and she could address the issues she has but we've seen the odd chink in her armour that shows deep down there is a heart.

..I think though Annie that to address the issues that she knows she has, she would have to like herself more to feel she 'deserved' that and I don't see any self liking there at all...hopefully one day she will though and maybe 'turn her life around'..but maybe also she doesn't want to because who and what she is gives her a 'celebrity'...

[Achilles]

Toya is worse than Helen. There is good inside Helen mixed in with all the anger and hate. There is no good inside Toya whatsoever.

[Kazanne]

I have moments when I do feel sorry for her,I do think she has a drink problem and has issues,but then she talks like a fishwife again and I go off her.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I have moments when I do feel sorry for her,I do think she has a drink problem and has issues,but then she talks like a fishwife again and I go off her.

. she has been pretty true to herself can't fault her for that.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

. she has been pretty true to herself can't fault her for that.

Yes,have to agree,unlike Ashleigh,Helen does tell people to their face.

[Brother Leon]

I don't like her, but I dislike Matthew,Ashleigh and Danielle more.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

I don't like her, but I dislike Matthew,Ashleigh and Danielle more.

The dream team

[Firewire]

She's worse

[Mystic Mock]

Helen's brilliant.

[andybigbro]

No.

[ruiphillips]

Nope.

[MojoNixon]

Nope. I might be weird, but i like Danielle.

[CaudleHalbard]

Helen is awful inside and it even shows on the outside.