[Jack_]

Ashleigh's been going up in my estimations recently...she's not just the quiet, inoffensive fence-sitter she appeared to be in the first week, I love her and Danielle's bitching sessions...they remind me of BB6 but no I love the fact that she knows what's what in the house and has pretty spot on opinions of people like Helen and Ash and is pretty harsh in her words about them <3 definitely wouldn't have expected that from her on first glance. She seems like a really nice girl that doesn't like ***** and will stand up for people who are being treated badly, basically <3

I do fear for her life in a way when imagining an argument between her and Helen but I really want it to happen now because in all honesty I get the feeling she might surprise us all and be able to hold her own? That would be the most amazing thing ever if the 18 year old girl could give Helen some home truths, it's a tall order though...I'm a bit apprehensive cause as Mark's been saying I'd feel quite protective over her just because of her age but it's definitely something I want to see and can see happening soon, she's getting more pissed off by the day

If she keeps it up I may start to support her, from one of the bores to an emerging bitch that may take on Helen...good stuff

[Hofman]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I do fear for her life in a way when imagining an argument between her and Helen

I reckon she could hold her own, but I think she feels she needs support to take it on in case she is ostracised from the group. Then again with Toya gone what has she got to loose.

[Samm]

I love her , it' a shame Toya was evicted they could of made the BB6 bitch thing happen again with Toya, Ashleigh and Danielle

[Marsh.]

Oh yeah, when she speaks to her teddy bear, oooh, the backbone.

[Locke.]

Oh no, this means we'll have more threads about saving her and evicting the so called bores in a couple of weeks only for her to be evicted anyway doesn't it

[Hofman]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Oh no, this means we'll have more threads about saving her and evicting the so called bores in a couple of weeks only for her to be evicted anyway doesn't it

If she left through the back door tonight would anyone notice?

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Ashleigh's been going up in my estimations recently...she's not just the quiet, inoffensive fence-sitter she appeared to be in the first week, I love her and Danielle's bitching sessions...they remind me of BB6 but no I love the fact that she knows what's what in the house and has pretty spot on opinions of people like Helen and Ash and is pretty harsh in her words about them <3 definitely wouldn't have expected that from her on first glance. She seems like a really nice girl that doesn't like ***** and will stand up for people who are being treated badly, basically <3

I do fear for her life in a way when imagining an argument between her and Helen but I really want it to happen now because in all honesty I get the feeling she might surprise us all and be able to hold her own? That would be the most amazing thing ever if the 18 year old girl could give Helen some home truths, it's a tall order though...I'm a bit apprehensive cause as Mark's been saying I'd feel quite protective over her just because of her age but it's definitely something I want to see and can see happening soon, she's getting more pissed off by the day

If she keeps it up I may start to support her, from one of the bores to an emerging bitch that may take on Helen...good stuff

Thats exactly what she is though

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Drew.

Thats exactly what she is though

No she isn't? Quiet in the context of the house itself perhaps, but certainly not in the show anymore. And a fence-sitter is someone that either goes around saying 'well I can see both sides' and refuses to take a stance or just doesn't have any opinion on anything at all. Ashleigh can't be described in those terms anymore in any way shape or form, she's made her opinion of Helen quite clear...it doesn't matter whether she's said it behind her back or not, she has an opinion and she's spoken it rather than kept it in which would have made her a fence-sitter. And I wouldn't describe some of the ways in which she's described that other group as 'inoffensive' either.

[Hofman]

Originally Posted by Jack_

No she isn't? Quiet in the context of the house itself perhaps, but certainly not in the show anymore. And a fence-sitter is someone that either goes around saying 'well I can see both sides' and refuses to take a stance or just doesn't have any opinion on anything at all. Ashleigh can't be described in those terms anymore in any way shape or form, she's made her opinion of Helen quite clear...it doesn't matter whether she's said it behind her back or not, she has an opinion and she's spoken it rather than kept it in which would have made her a fence-sitter. And I wouldn't describe some of the ways in which she's described that other group as 'inoffensive' either.

I think the problem is, it's all hot air at the moment.

Ashleigh is deluded if she thinks Danielle will support her in an argument, she has become invertebrate.

[Achilles]

This is how Ashleigh vs Helen "confrontation" might go down

Spoiler:

Youtube video

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Achilles

This is how Ashleigh vs Helen "confrontation" might go down

Spoiler:

Youtube video

[Hofman]

Originally Posted by Achilles

This is how Ashleigh vs Helen "confrontation" might go down

Spoiler:

Youtube video

LMAO

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

No she isn't? Quiet in the context of the house itself perhaps, but certainly not in the show anymore. And a fence-sitter is someone that either goes around saying 'well I can see both sides' and refuses to take a stance or just doesn't have any opinion on anything at all. Ashleigh can't be described in those terms anymore in any way shape or form, she's made her opinion of Helen quite clear...it doesn't matter whether she's said it behind her back or not, she has an opinion and she's spoken it rather than kept it in which would have made her a fence-sitter. And I wouldn't describe some of the ways in which she's described that other group as 'inoffensive' either.

It's not even as if shes getting 5 or so minutes worth of highlights, it's just a few seconds and words of her saying things about other housemates. She has no storyline building up to it, it seems to come out from nowhere. I don't think i've ever seen a housemate look as bored, lifeless and grumpy as much as her. We know nothing about her, we don't know how she behaves whilst having fun (she doesnt believe in fun), we don't know how she behaves during an argument.. all we do know is that she can't crack a smile and is living from 30 seconds worth of bitching highlights a day.

I've said housemates will be holding back whilst in the company of the likes of Helen who will attack anybody that opens their gob, and Ashleigh is probably one. I like her and i think shes got a lot more to offer, but so far she just puts a downer on the show.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Drew.

It's not even as if shes getting 5 or so minutes worth of highlights, it's just a few seconds and words of her saying things about other housemates. She has no storyline building up to it, it seems to come out from nowhere. I don't think i've ever seen a housemate look as bored, lifeless and grumpy as much as her. We know nothing about her, we don't know how she behaves whilst having fun (she doesnt believe in fun), we don't know how she behaves during an argument.. all we do know is that she can't crack a smile and is living from 30 seconds worth of bitching highlights a day.

I've said housemates will be holding back whilst in the company of the likes of Helen who will attack anybody that opens their gob, and Ashleigh is probably one. I like her and i think shes got a lot more to offer, but so far she just puts a downer on the show.

Every segment we've had of hers and Danielle's this week has had us learn more about her though and have finally given her a role in the show and something we can pull apart and ponder over whether it's going to lead anywhere, before she was this non-existent background character that we all assumed was some inoffensive nice 18 year old girl that wasn't going to have an opinion on anything, quite clearly that's not true. She's much better now than she was a couple of weeks ago...well actually she didn't even exist in the show a couple of weeks ago, so how could she be worse now than before or how could it not be a good thing that she's getting more airtime?

I think saying she doesn't believe in fun is a little unfair, the atmosphere in that house must be appalling and I'm not surprised she doesn't want to participate in some activities with some of the people in there...I also think people like Toya and Danielle have had an influence on her attitude but rather than it being a bad thing it's a good thing because like I said it's given her a purpose and something we can finally discuss regarding her, if she was just joining in the fun and having a good old time then well there's not really much to talk about is there? It's just...oh isn't Ashleigh great having a laugh with the rest of them...I'm sure she's like that in real life but it's not a beneficial role to have on a show like Big Brother

She seems like someone who's got her head screwed on right, knows what's what and doesn't agree with people being treated like **** (there's a few comments she's made about situations in the house which I've fully agreed with) and hopefully she'll stand her ground should an argument with Helen emerge. Obviously it might not and then in a few weeks if this continues my opinion may have to change, for now I don't see how it's anything other than a good thing the new role she's got in the show though

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Ashleigh's been going up in my estimations recently...she's not just the quiet, inoffensive fence-sitter she appeared to be in the first week, I love her and Danielle's bitching sessions...they remind me of BB6 but no I love the fact that she knows what's what in the house and has pretty spot on opinions of people like Helen and Ash and is pretty harsh in her words about them <3 definitely wouldn't have expected that from her on first glance. She seems like a really nice girl that doesn't like ***** and will stand up for people who are being treated badly, basically <3

I do fear for her life in a way when imagining an argument between her and Helen but I really want it to happen now because in all honesty I get the feeling she might surprise us all and be able to hold her own? That would be the most amazing thing ever if the 18 year old girl could give Helen some home truths, it's a tall order though...I'm a bit apprehensive cause as Mark's been saying I'd feel quite protective over her just because of her age but it's definitely something I want to see and can see happening soon, she's getting more pissed off by the day

If she keeps it up I may start to support her, from one of the bores to an emerging bitch that may take on Helen...good stuff

Well imagine that. We agree! I have always seen Ashleigh as strong, tough and not the little wallflower at all. I'm hoping she takes on Helen without lowering herself to her level though.
I think this week we'll find out that Ashleigh isn't the teddy hugging bore she's portrayed to be.

[John-s]

http://youtu.be/w7V1IYPdFJQ

[reece(:]

Ashleigh & Danielle > the lessors

[Josy]

She is one of the most boring hm's ever, lays around bitching all day with Danielle who acts as if she's tommy ten men then neither of them does **** all about it.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Josy

She is one of the most boring hm's ever, lays around bitching all day with Danielle who acts as if she's tommy ten men then neither of them does **** all about it.

So does Ash

[Hofman]

Originally Posted by Josy

She is one the most boring hm's ever, lays around bitching all day with Danielle who acts as if she's tommy ten men then neither of them does **** all about it.

Does it wind you up like it does me? Maybe this is what is riling Helen, if it's gritting me just as a viewer.

I'm doing it again, almost supporting Helen

Would much rather see them and Stephen evicted than any of the others, even Helen.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Hofman

Does it wind you up like it does me? Maybe this is what is riling Helen, if it's gritting me just as a viewer.

I'm doing it again, almost supporting Helen

Would much rather see them and Stephen evicted than any of the others, even Helen.

Yes it's really annoying me, especially when Marcus says 'Ashleigh is in the kitchen talking about...' you can actually finish his sentence.

Jack, I would be glad it was building up if it was actually going somewhere but it's a damp squib, they will never get into an argument imo.

[Hofman]

Originally Posted by Josy

Yes it's really annoying me, especially when Marcus says 'Ashleigh is in the kitchen talking about...' you can actually finish his sentence.

Never thought of that, but so, so true!

Dam it, now I'm going notice it on highlights and get annoyed lol

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Hofman

Never thought of that, but so, so true!

Dam it, now I'm going notice it on highlights and get annoyed lol

[Hofman]

I will give Ashleigh and Danielle one thing, they have helped polarise the audience which is good for the show. But! It's been polarised before by far more interesting housemates I have to say!

[GypsyGoth]

She needs to do something and stop talking about doing something.

And I don't even mean confront people (who she's been bitching about behind their backs for weeks), I mean just get more involved in the house. Her only storyline so far is her bad mouthing people while they're out of earshot.