[Raph]

I've been thinking this for a couple of weeks now, but it seems as though casting really did a horrendous job this year with the males they casted. Either they're delusionally bitchy, or just lack any sort of personality whatsoever. I usually support the male housemates but I couldn't support one even if I tried ridiculously hard to, this year.

As Toya would say Ma-who? Although really that applies to every male housemate in there. Who are these imbeciles

[MB.]

Ikr where's the Ben Adams figure

[Will.]

Agree, I think it is pretty badly casted. Apart from Chris and Mark and Matthew. The girls have been casted we'll, although I wanted a fee more normal ones like Jale.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by Willbrick1999

Agree, I think it is pretty badly casted. Apart from Chris and Mark and Matthew. The girls have been casted we'll, although I wanted a fee more normal ones like Jale.

^ this

[Vladimir]

I agree, they're either bitchy or spineless.

[Josy]

I disagree with that, without the males we have it would just be constant bitchiness.

At least some of the males try and have some laughs and fun.

Not here for pure bitchiness tbh we need a balance

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Josy

I disagree with that, without the males we have it would just be constant bitchiness.

At least some of the males try and have some laughs and fun.

Not here for pure bitchiness tbh we need a balance

I feel like Mark, Matthew, Ash and Marlon bitch a heck of a lot. And Steven, Chris, Christopher and Winston just lack personality. And really we've seen very little fun from any of them, in my opinion

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Josy

At least some of the males try and have some laughs and fun.

There not funny at all

[Josy]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

There not funny at all

Obviously some disagree with you

[Drew.]

All things point towards this being C5s best male casting, It's got to the point where the males are doing so well even BB have to intervene to get rid of them. Theres no stand out yet that will be remembered like Lord Aaron, Mark is the closest but for different reasons. But every male has played a part and a role in the series so far. Whether they are likeable or not they've all produced so far.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Drew.

All things point towards this being C5s best male casting, It's got to the point where the males are doing so well even BB have to intervene to get rid of them. Theres no stand out yet that will be remembered like Lord Aaron, Mark is the closest but for different reasons. But every male has played a part and a role in the series so far. Whether they are likeable or not they've all produced so far.

Or perhaps because they've produced so little, producers are becoming a little desperate to lose at least one of them?

[Drew.]

Thats not the reason at all.. These dipsy females go all out and make a fool out of themselves which causes the public to hate them whilst the males are still creating talking points but playing the game well.. at this rate every female will be gone with every male left standing.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Drew.

Thats not the reason at all.. These dipsy females go all out and make a fool out of themselves which causes the public to hate them whilst the males are still creating talking points but playing the game well.. at this rate every female will be gone with every male left standing.

Yeah the males have created so many talking points

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Barker

Yeah the males have created so many talking points

Bar Mark/Ash i don't see any 'talking points', either. Ash for being a prick though

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Barker

Yeah the males have created so many talking points

Ash stood up to Toya telling them all to calm the **** down, starting off the argument.
Winston and Marlon argued with Toya.
Marlon argued with Toya the next day.
Ash reacted badly to being nominated.
Steven started a showmance with Kim.
Mark went a bit mental and kicked the door.
Mark ranted in the DR about Pauline.
Mark argued with Pauline in the Kitchen.
Matthew told Helen to get a boob job for her saggy tits.
Marlon fell out the door and lay flat on his face.
Steven admitted he was interested in Kim for mag deals.
Chris was amazing with the Power and nommed Pauline

All just off the top of my head but everything on that list created one or more talking points in this forum.

I am really shocked that people can't admit anything good about a housemate at all just because they dislike them, theres a few housemates I strongly disliked but can still find them interesting in some way, laugh at some things they say etc.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Josy

Ash stood up to Toya telling them all to calm the **** down, starting off the argument.
Winston and Marlon argued with Toya.
Marlon argued with Toya the next day.
Ash reacted badly to being nominated.
Steven started a showmance with Kim.
Mark went a bit mental and kicked the door.
Mark ranted in the DR about Pauline.
Mark argued with Pauline in the Kitchen.
Matthew told Helen to get a boob job for her saggy tits.
Marlon fell out the door and lay flat on his face.
Steven admitted he was interested in Kim for mag deals.
Chris was amazing with the Power and nommed Pauline

All just off the top of my head but everything on that list created one or more talking points in this forum.

I am really shocked that people can't admit anything good about a housemate at all just because they dislike them, theres a few housemates I strongly disliked but can still find them interesting in some way, laugh at some things they say etc.

Yes, the parts in bold were mildly entertaining. But the first really only because of Toya and her rant at Winston. I think that's very quick to judge saying that "people can't admit anything good about a housemate just because they dislike them". I hated Dexter, Charlie and Jackie but I could definitely appreciate them as good housemates. Definitely couldn't say the same about this lot though. Where is the depth!

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Josy

Ash stood up to Toya telling them all to calm the **** down, starting off the argument.
Winston and Marlon argued with Toya.
Marlon argued with Toya the next day.
Ash reacted badly to being nominated.
Steven started a showmance with Kim.
Mark went a bit mental and kicked the door.
Mark ranted in the DR about Pauline.
Mark argued with Pauline in the Kitchen.
Matthew told Helen to get a boob job for her saggy tits.
Marlon fell out the door and lay flat on his face.
Steven admitted he was interested in Kim for mag deals.
Chris was amazing with the Power and nommed Pauline

Almost none of these are talking points though. I'm sure there was RIVETING discussion over when Marlon tripped, what a ****ing deep moment!

[Raph]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Almost none of these are talking points though. I'm sure there was RIVETING discussion over when Marlon tripped, what a ****ing deep moment!

[Josy]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Almost none of these are talking points though. I'm sure there was RIVETING discussion over when Marlon tripped, what a ****ing deep moment!

Every single thing on that list had one or more threads created about them, just because YOU don't think it was a talking point doesn't make it true.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Barker

I've been thinking this for a couple of weeks now, but it seems as though casting really did a horrendous job this year with the males they casted. Either they're delusionally bitchy, or just lack any sort of personality whatsoever. I usually support the male housemates but I couldn't support one even if I tried ridiculously hard to, this year.

As Toya would say Ma-who? Although really that applies to every male housemate in there. Who are these imbeciles

I agree, the males bar Mark are SO dull, all of BOTS mention it everyday, the public agree with you. If you compare it too last year where we had Dexter & Callum, or BB12 when we had Aaron, Harry, Mark, Anton, Jay etc. The males lack personality this year

[Drew.]

Chris was the highlight of the week whilst he was in power
Ash, Marlon and Winston have been all the forum can talk about for 2 weeks
Christopher was involved in a lot of the so called bullying at the start of the series
Mark has been the star of almost every highlight show
Matthew has played the game really well and is getting a lot of air time at the moment
Steven has created discussions on here every day because of how creepy and terrible he is, He reminds me a bit of Callum actually.

3 Females down with all the males still standing, its great to see.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Drew.

Chris was the highlight of the week whilst he was in power
Ash, Marlon and Winston have been all the forum can talk about for 2 weeks
Christopher was involved in a lot of the so called bullying at the start of the series
Mark has been the star of almost every highlight show
Matthew has played the game really well and is getting a lot of air time at the moment
Steven has created discussions on here every day because of how creepy and terrible he is, He reminds me a bit of Callum actually.

3 Females down with all the males still standing, its great to see.

Yes, the forum has been stacked with threads about Ash, Marlon and Winston. I'd say Jale (female) was far more involved in bullying things than Christopher. Mark has been incredibly fake but I suppose that can be some people's highlight of a show. And please don't compare Steven to Callum (I mean of course you're entitled to) but Callum had so much depth and character whereas all Steven is, is some recruited idiot who thinks it's good to create a showmance, as it'll "get the viewers excited".

Yeah, Matthew has been decent, i'll give you that. But still 1/8 of the male cast, is pretty shameful really.

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Barker

Yes, the forum has been stacked with threads about Ash, Marlon and Winston. I'd say Jale (female) was far more involved in bullying things than Christopher. Mark has been incredibly fake but I suppose that can be some people's highlight of a show. And please don't compare Steven to Callum (I mean of course you're entitled to) but Callum had so much depth and character whereas all Steven is, is some recruited idiot who thinks it's good to create a showmance, as it'll "get the viewers excited".

Yeah, Matthew has been decent, i'll give you that. But still 1/8 of the male cast, is pretty shameful really.

If you've been viewing most threads throughout the past week or two you'll have realized the rivalry between Toya & Ash, Winston and Marlon has carried into most threads, even threads that had nothing to do with those housemates, not necessarily threads created for them. They have been the most talked about all week. Yeah Jale was more involved but i wasn't comparing Christopher to her, I was just giving my example of how hes been involved. A lot of it to me sounds like you don't like any of them at all that shouldn't take away the fact they've all supplied their bits to the show. Pauline and Toya were bloody awful, but they still created talking points.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Drew.

If you've been viewing most threads throughout the past week or two you'll have realized the rivalry between Toya & Ash, Winston and Marlon has carried into most threads, even threads that had nothing to do with those housemates, not necessarily threads created for them. They have been the most talked about all week.

That's only because Ash fans (and Toya fans, must admit) wouldn't/won't stop talking about them 24/7 to even consider that there are other HMs in there.

I'm actually happy my favourite's gone now, just because I can watch the show from a non-biased point of view and kind of start over again with my choosing faves and stuff.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Drew.

If you've been viewing most threads throughout the past week or two you'll have realized the rivalry between Toya & Ash, Winston and Marlon has carried into most threads, even threads that had nothing to do with those housemates, not necessarily threads created for them. They have been the most talked about all week. Yeah Jale was more involved but i wasn't comparing Christopher to her, I was just giving my example of how hes been involved. A lot of it to me sounds like you don't like any of them at all that shouldn't take away the fact they've all supplied their bits to the show. Pauline and Toya were bloody awful, but they still created talking points.

Then if you accept the talking points argument and are even listing talking points the male housemates have provided to justify their position and role in the show, why would you or did you want to get rid of people like Pauline and Toya who as you've just agreed created talking points as well? Surely by that logic we should get rid of all of the males you listed too?

I agree that the male cast isn't that bad and people like Ash, Mark, Christopher, Steven, Matthew and Chris (although he's a bit tenuous cause he had to be given a role through the Power Housemate twist) have provided things, but either you support keeping those who create the talking points in the show or not it can't be one rule for one gender and another for another