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Old 27-07-2014, 12:33 AM #1
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...Compared to January's Celebrity Big Brother success and last summer's 'Secrets and Lies' success, why has Power Trip failed? They did everything they could, did a new theme, got a beautiful house and diary room, so why has this series failed? Ultimately housemates, lack of live feed, or is the theme not very good?
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Has it failed?
Well ratings have sunk again and its being regarded as worse than Big Brother 4.
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Well ratings have sunk again and its being regarded as worse than Big Brother 4.
By who?

This has been its strongest series since BB9
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This has been its strongest series since BB9
In no way has it.
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In no way has it.
Blatently has been. I have loved it
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I don't think it's failed.

"Worse than BB4" AS IF. Literally nothing happened, they even swapped housemates half way around the world and it was still stagnant.

This has had everything - fights, shocks, sex, drama etc etc...

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I don't think it's failed.

"Worse than BB4" AS IF. Literally nothing happened, they even swapped housemates half way around the world and it was still stagnant.

This has had everything - fights, shocks, sex, drama etc etc...
I thought this a week ago but now I'd practically give up trying to defend it. We've had a lot of drama, twists, sex for the first time in years and shock eviction results/exits (Tamara and Jale surprisingly going even when up against series villains and Biannca bearing her tits as she left) but unfortunately the ratings haven't reflected this.
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I don't think it's failed.

"Worse than BB4" AS IF. Literally nothing happened, they even swapped housemates half way around the world and it was still stagnant.

This has had everything - fights, shocks, sex, drama etc etc...
get all that on a night out

ive grown bored of it
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..if it has failed in terms of viewing audience then I wouldn't under estimate the World Cup and the loss of viewers at the beginning which is then more difficult to catch up half way through..but with the series itself, for me..it's just been that the balance of negativity/happy times and more chilled times hasn't been reached or even close to been reached...I think we all know that the housemates must have some fun times as well and probably quite a few so we've needed to see more of them and see them less as one dimensional characters...
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..if it has failed in terms of viewing audience then I wouldn't under estimate the World Cup and the loss of viewers at the beginning which is then more difficult to catch up half way through..but with the series itself, for me..it's just been that the balance of negativity/happy times and more chilled times hasn't been reached or even close to been reached...I think we all know that the housemates must have some fun times as well and probably quite a few so we've needed to see more of them and see them less as one dimensional characters...
I agree with this - it's the good times and feeling like you're getting to know these people that make the shocking and dramatic parts shocking and dramatic. They've edited out anything positive in favour of arguments and feuds but, because we haven't got to see the people just being people, we dont CARE about their disputes, and so the twists, turns, shocks and even evictions are just boring and meaningless.
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I don't think it's being regarded as worse than BB4, except by those who seem to detest everything Channel 5 ever produce
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Taking away the public's ability to remove a bully has soured this series.

Hopefully, BB doesn't use the pass to the final ploy next year.
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Taking away the public's ability to remove a bully has soured this series.

Hopefully, BB doesn't use the pass to the final ploy next year.
That was a very bad move, I agree.
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Taking away the public's ability to remove a bully has soured this series.

Hopefully, BB doesn't use the pass to the final ploy next year.
They didn't really do that intentionally though did they. When she received that pass all the way back on day 2 people were saying "Helen seems nice."

This series hasn't failed - it's not like the ratings have absolutely collapsed. It's been up against a lot of competition this year and has still done fairly well. The World Cup handicapped it from the start because a show like Big Brother isn't the type of programme you can start watching half way through.
Yes then producers have made some weird descicions but the show does have to throw curveballs sometimes. The bed sit in BB5 was a curve ball, as was twisted evil BB. Some things work, somethings don't - but if the producers don't experiment then we get a show that gets stagnant VERY quickly. BB has been on for 15 years. That wouldn't have happened without experimentation.
I've really enjoyed this series - and the people that are complaining but still have favourites that they will fight for to the death is a sign that people still love the show.
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It's definitely a bottom tier series with 2/4/10/12 but certainly isn't worse than 12 (which is literal garbage.) h/o let me find my post about why this season is so bad thx to a certain Helen Wood and post it here.
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It's definitely a bottom tier series with 2/4/10/12 but certainly isn't worse than 12 (which is literal garbage.) h/o let me find my post about why this season is so bad thx to a certain Helen Wood and post it here.
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I will admit that I might be able to appreciate Helen ironically if she didn't have her pass. Like, she would've gone in, been extremely belligerent in ways we couldn't believe, be evicted around the same time as Pauline, get booed and OFF OFF OFF chants and feces through her letterbox with "THIS IS FROM JALE" attached, the whole nine yards. She's not a real human being, she's supposed to be a short term character who doesn't actually have any impact on the series or house dynamics or anything.

Unfortunately, Helen still has her pass to the final (despite the fact that the producers don't care to dismember literally every other twist this series) and we're stuck with her for much longer than anyone would've bargained for. She's reigning over the house like a tyrant, expecting everyone to ingratiate themselves with her and her clique of dickish boys and that's not fun for me to watch at all.

Helen is the core of the power structure in there and it's really sickening. Your social standing in the house is directly related to your relationship with Helen. You either have to get in with her clique (which Jale and Kimberly resorted to eventually) if you wanna have an ostensibly good time, or you'll just have to wander around by yourself with the other nonconformers. Now this is getting into more of The Ashleigh Thing, but she realized that she can't do **** to Helen so she's resorted to taking out her followers like she should (an Ash eviction, which is long overdo, would completely throw Helen off her rocker.) Helen can simply just clash with Ashleigh and encourage her entourage to nominate her and that's how she'll deal with it (and that's how she has been dealing with it.)

Everything's just incredibly static with Helen's stranglehold over the house. She's here until the end (as far as we know) and nothing can be done about it. And worst of all she's been BORING lately ("boring" in the sense that she's not shrieking in people's faces about being ALWAYS IN THE RIGHT ALWAYS IN THE RIGHT ALWAYS IN THE RIGHT ALWAYS IN THE RIGHT) so I don't get why a small vocal minority is still attached to her for being A Big Character. She's ****ing Aaryn Gries at this point, an objectionably awful person for the first 3-4 weeks and then boring afterwards. Those are the worst kinds of people.
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I've only watched a few of the past series but I don't see this season as being a fail. It's annoying at times when it seems to be so manipulated, but as a whole, I'm enjoying it.
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I don't think it's failed or been as bad as some people are making it out to be. Its not as good as BB13 or BB14, but it's only marginally worse than BB14 in my opinion and still miles better than BB12. It hasn't been an awful series by any means, but it never lived up to its true potential either. It's very middle of the road. Things definitely would be different had it not been for Helen's pass because without a shadow of a doubt she has reigned over this entire series to an extent no other housemate has ever done before. It'd be a COMPLETELY different series without her I think.

Honestly, I can't say I've truly been bored yet. And there has been some great and memorable moments along the way.
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Because it's a negative series full to the brim of negativity (which I wouldn't blame on Helen like some would but BB's incessant stirring).

The constant need for false drama, contrived arguments.

Just a waste of a series. I've missed the last 3/4 episodes other than the eviction and I don't care to catch up on them. Roll on the final and let's forget all about it.
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Because it's a negative series full to the brim of negativity (which I wouldn't blame on Helen like some would but BB's incessant stirring).

The constant need for false drama, contrived arguments.

Just a waste of a series. I've missed the last 3/4 episodes other than the eviction and I don't care to catch up on them. Roll on the final and let's forget all about it.
This 100%. I think ultimately it comes down to how unlikeable and plain the housemates are this year. They pretty much all have no personality and come from a showbiz background. So given how unlikeable and dull the housemates are, no matter what they do - sex, arguments, bitching - whatever, it won't elicit any genuine interest in the viewers.

If a dull mean person had sex at school, you wouldn't really care either, because you have no feelings towards this person. This series has also been so manipulated by the producers. One of the very best, and fundamental aspects of the show is nominations and the fact that we've only had 2 sets of real nominations in however many weeks is a joke.

I haven't watched in over a week now because it's been such a disappointing series. Roll on BB16 (hopefully).
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