[Achilles]

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A nasty horrible person who has received multiple warnings for bullying and aggressive behaviour.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by Achilles

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A nasty horrible person who has received multiple warnings for bullying and aggressive behaviour.

Totally agree with you I would hate to see Helen winning.

[Lister of Smeg]

Have no clue . How anyone can want such a vile individual to win is beyond me too .

[coffee]

Originally Posted by BigBrotherfan4ever

Totally agree with you I would hate to see Helen winning.

Show at least 5 clips of Ashleigh being just as nasty as Helen because it's not very hard to find 5 of Helen being horrible.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by coffee

Show at least 5 clips of Ashleigh being just as nasty as Helen because it's not very hard to find 5 of Helen being horrible.

i would never want helen to win

but horrible isnt always whats on the surface its more what lies beneath.........helen was at leats nice to pav , loyal to ash , winston and got on with steve and his yankeee lass too........im not convinced ashleigh is necessarily any nicer or warmer herself

[billy123]

Are you incapable of seeing how just as many people see Ashliegh as nasty?

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Are you incapable of seeing how just as many people see Ashliegh as nasty?

The ex housemates who dislike Ashleigh are the ones who were part of Helen's nasty gang. The ex housemates who like Ashleigh are the ones who hated Helen's nasty gang.
Ashleigh has been against Helen and her nasty gang throughout the show. Obviously she will be hated for this and she will be insulted and called vile names because she is against Helen. I don't support the nasty gang and their disgusting leader Helen.

[tanussa]

Originally Posted by Achilles

The ex housemates who dislike Ashleigh are the ones who were part of Helen's nasty gang. The ex housemates who like Ashleigh are the ones who hated Helen's nasty gang.
Ashleigh has been against Helen and her nasty gang throughout the show. Obviously she will be hated for this and she will be insulted and called vile names because she is against Helen. I don't support the nasty gang and their disgusting leader Helen.

you are so infatuated with ashleigh, we can try and try again til we are blue in the face, you will never accept the truth, how bitter and nasty she really is, have you never seen the nasty looks she gives people with those horrible narrowed eyes. at least the people who prefer helen accept that she has bad points, you paint ashleigh as a saint

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by tanussa

you are so infatuated with ashleigh, we can try and try again til we are blue in the face, you will never accept the truth, how bitter and nasty she really is, have you never seen the nasty looks she gives people with those horrible narrowed eyes. at least the people who prefer helen accept that she has bad points, you paint ashleigh as a saint

Bullying should never be accepted and definitely not supported. Ashleigh doesn't like Helen because Helen is nasty and a bully. Justified.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Achilles

The ex housemates who dislike Ashleigh are the ones who were part of Helen's nasty gang. The ex housemates who like Ashleigh are the ones who hated Helen's nasty gang.

Boooorinnnggg

You keep calling Helen's friends nasty when in reality those aligned with Ashleigh were and have been MUCH worse since their exit

You keep harping on like Ashleigh is a total angel devoid of any blame for ex housemates disliking her when the reality is she brought it all on herself, it feels like borderline delusion at this point.

[JCrow]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Boooorinnnggg

You keep calling Helen's friends nasty when in reality those aligned with Ashleigh were and have been MUCH worse since their exit

You keep harping on like Ashleigh is a total angel devoid of any blame for ex housemates disliking her when the reality is she brought it all on herself, it feels like borderline delusion at this point.

You Know Achilles is EXACTLY right, exactly. I have to wonder at your use of the word 'delusional'

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by JCrow

You Know Achilles is EXACTLY right, exactly. I have to wonder at your use of the word 'delusional'

[Beso]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Are you incapable of seeing how just as many people see Ashliegh as nasty?

there's normal nasty, then theres Helen kind of nasty..bb's warnings prove to every viewer just who has been the nastiest.

[ozzyshaggah]

Originally Posted by parmnion

there's normal nasty, then theres Helen kind of nasty..bb's warnings prove to every viewer just who has been the nastiest.

yes
and there is *******igh nasty and vile

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Are you incapable of seeing how just as many people see Ashliegh as nasty?

discredited - everything ashigh has said is for a reason or has been put to her.

[M X]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Are you incapable of seeing how just as many people see Ashliegh as nasty?

Regardless of whether you think Ashleigh is nice or nasty, it is totally ignorant and naive to place their behaviour in the same category. Helen has been a vile bully. Insulting peoples physical appearance, purposely saying words to hurt their feelings as much as she can because it makes her feel better, and she has enjoyed making the atmosphere for other housemates uncomfortable and tense. Ashleigh has not done that.

[JCrow]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Are you incapable of seeing how just as many people see Ashliegh as nasty?

We see that all too well and its very disheartening. Not counting Pauline, Helen has caused EVERYTHING. Watch from the beginning and can see why Ashleigh and so many others talked **** about Helen. Its OBVIOUS! If you still don't get it you're just as delusional as Helen is.

[Kazanne]

Helen to win

[rocket]

Why indeed....
People forget too quickly what ...a nasty vile person...she has been for the majority of this series...!!

CHRISTOPHER TO WIN.....

[joeysteele]

Aggressive behaviour doesn't make a bully and in my view Helen is not one.

Anyway bullies more often go about their business in a more subtle way where others don't really see the nastiness,often using mind games in breaking their victims down.

Helen just flies off the handle and rants at people but that is not bullying.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Aggressive behaviour doesn't make a bully and in my view Hlene is not one.

Anyway bullies more often go about their business in a more subtle way where others don't really see the nastiness,often usinf mond game in breaking their victims down.

Helen just flies off the handle and rants at people but that is not bullying.

This. And honestly the bully argument can be said for yours truly Ashleigh as well. What a nightmare that girl is

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Raph

This. And honestly the bully argument can be said for yours truly Ashleigh as well. What a nightmare that girl is

Somebody could use a bully argument against Ashleigh, but it would be complete BS argument. Do you watch that upload and laugh or get angry?

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Aggressive behaviour doesn't make a bully and in my view Hlene is not one.

Anyway bullies more often go about their business in a more subtle way where others don't really see the nastiness,often usinf mond game in breaking their victims down.

Helen just flies off the handle and rants at people but that is not bullying.

Why defend a nasty bully? That upload is just one example.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Why defend a nasty bully? That upload is just one example.

Are you listening and reading with full respect, because I don't think she is a bully.

She can be really nasty at times, she is loud,she is foul mouthed but that doesn't make her a bully, as with in many series of BB the word bully is misused as to describe someone.

It is in fact an insult to those who have really been bullied.
Many of whom would have likely preferred to have someone yelling the way Helen does,rather than have a real bullying situation, so others could see them and hear them and know what was happening.
People being bullied and those bullying generally are often only found out that it is taking place by accident, since bullies often operate in a cowardly fashion.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Are you listening and reading with full respect, because I don't think she is a bully.

She can be really nasty at times, she is loud,she is foul mouthed but that doesn't make her a bully, as with in many series of BB the word bully is misused as to describe someone.

It is in fact an insult to those who have really been bullied.
Many of whom would have likely preferred to have someone yelling the way Helen does,rather than have a real bullying situation, so others could see them and hear them and know what was happening.
People being bullied and those bullying generally are often only found out that it is taking place by accident, since bullies often operate in a cowardly fashion.

No it is insulting to people who have been bullied when people deny bullying. Not only insulting but disgusting.