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Old 12-08-2014, 07:31 AM #1
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Aggressive behaviour doesn't make a bully and in my view Helen is not one.

Anyway bullies more often go about their business in a more subtle way where others don't really see the nastiness,often using mind games in breaking their victims down.

Helen just flies off the handle and rants at people but that is not bullying.

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Aggressive behaviour doesn't make a bully and in my view Hlene is not one.

Anyway bullies more often go about their business in a more subtle way where others don't really see the nastiness,often usinf mond game in breaking their victims down.

Helen just flies off the handle and rants at people but that is not bullying.
This. And honestly the bully argument can be said for yours truly Ashleigh as well. What a nightmare that girl is
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This. And honestly the bully argument can be said for yours truly Ashleigh as well. What a nightmare that girl is
Somebody could use a bully argument against Ashleigh, but it would be complete BS argument. Do you watch that upload and laugh or get angry?
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Aggressive behaviour doesn't make a bully and in my view Hlene is not one.

Anyway bullies more often go about their business in a more subtle way where others don't really see the nastiness,often usinf mond game in breaking their victims down.

Helen just flies off the handle and rants at people but that is not bullying.
Why defend a nasty bully? That upload is just one example.
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Why defend a nasty bully? That upload is just one example.
Are you listening and reading with full respect, because I don't think she is a bully.

She can be really nasty at times, she is loud,she is foul mouthed but that doesn't make her a bully, as with in many series of BB the word bully is misused as to describe someone.

It is in fact an insult to those who have really been bullied.
Many of whom would have likely preferred to have someone yelling the way Helen does,rather than have a real bullying situation, so others could see them and hear them and know what was happening.
People being bullied and those bullying generally are often only found out that it is taking place by accident, since bullies often operate in a cowardly fashion.
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Are you listening and reading with full respect, because I don't think she is a bully.

She can be really nasty at times, she is loud,she is foul mouthed but that doesn't make her a bully, as with in many series of BB the word bully is misused as to describe someone.

It is in fact an insult to those who have really been bullied.
Many of whom would have likely preferred to have someone yelling the way Helen does,rather than have a real bullying situation, so others could see them and hear them and know what was happening.
People being bullied and those bullying generally are often only found out that it is taking place by accident, since bullies often operate in a cowardly fashion.
No it is insulting to people who have been bullied when people deny bullying. Not only insulting but disgusting.
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No it is insulting to people who have been bullied when people deny bullying. Not only insulting but disgusting.
She is NOT a bully ,you forget people who support her have also been bullied,they,KNOW the difference
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She is NOT a bully ,you forget people who support her have also been bullied,they,KNOW the difference
She IS a bully, people who support her have NEVER been bullied. If they had ever been bullied they wouldn't defend her. Simple as that.
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Its down to a simple trick the mind plays, that familiarity breeds acceptance.

Helens behaviour was deplorable. But she's been around for so long that some have started to ignore all her bad traits and started to "blame" those who dislike her because of the aggression.
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She IS a bully, people who support her have NEVER been bullied. If they had ever been bullied they wouldn't defend her. Simple as that.
Well they have ,they have said so on here,you have the whole concept of bullying wrong,but if it's all you've got,I guess you'll run with it
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She IS a bully, people who support her have NEVER been bullied. If they had ever been bullied they wouldn't defend her. Simple as that.
Incorrect.. i spent the majority of my school life being bullied and none of those people would have ever been suspected because they were supposedly the 'nice people' of the school, but because they were so sly and vindictive with it, it made it a whole lot worse.. Ashleigh remind me of every single person who had a part in it, rolled into one, so yes, i do support Helen and yes, i have been bullied so i know how it feels and looks like, Helen is definitely not a bully
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No it is insulting to people who have been bullied when people deny bullying. Not only insulting but disgusting.
Apparently its okay these days to call someone a slug; to say fat ugly people are annoying; to say the Irish are uneducated and live in 'incestville'; to say you want certain singers 'to die'; to sit and poke fun at people and laugh at them in the BB house in public; to have other people you live with feel afraid of you; to have your own friends call you aggressive; to get numerous warnings for being nasty, name calling, and behavior that could be 'construed' as bullying. As what is seen as bullying behavoir is not the same for everyone, it is fair to say that many people see her as a bully.

But all that is overcome because she is seen as loyal to her own clique. That's easy. It's how she behaves to those NOT in her clique that shows what she is made of.
All that is overcome because some bleeding hearts see her as 'hurt by her hard life'. Hard life my ass. Look at the starving refugees who are in fear for their lives and those of their families. Look at families whose children are dying every day from hunger and disease. It is appalling to say that sorry excuse for a woman has had it hard.

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Apparently its okay these days to call someone a slug; to say fat ugly people are annoying; to say the Irish are uneducated and live in 'incestville'; to say you want certain singers 'to die'; to sit and poke fun at people and laugh at them in the BB house in public; to have other people you live with feel afraid of you; to have your own friends call you aggressive; to get numerous warnings for being nasty, name calling, and behavior that could be 'construed' as bullying. As what is seen as bullying behavoir is not the same for everyone, it is fair to say that many people see her as a bully.

But all that is overcome because she is seen as loyal to her own clique. That's easy. It's how she behaves to those NOT in her clique that shows what she is made of.
All that is overcome because some bleeding hearts see her as 'hurt by her hard life'. Hard life my ass. Look at the starving refugees who are in fear for their lives and those of their families. Look at families whose children are dying every day from hunger and disease. It is appalling to say that sorry excuse for a woman has had it hard.

i feel the public are being manipulated into voting for Helen, vulnerable my ass, tears of drunk self pity because even her friends had called her aggressive

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Apparently its okay these days to call someone a slug; to say fat ugly people are annoying; to say the Irish are uneducated and live in 'incestville'; to say you want certain singers 'to die'; to sit and poke fun at people and laugh at them in the BB house in public; to have other people you live with feel afraid of you; to have your own friends call you aggressive; to get numerous warnings for being nasty, name calling, and behavior that could be 'construed' as bullying. As what is seen as bullying behavoir is not the same for everyone, it is fair to say that many people see her as a bully.

But all that is overcome because she is seen as loyal to her own clique. That's easy. It's how she behaves to those NOT in her clique that shows what she is made of.
All that is overcome because some bleeding hearts see her as 'hurt by her hard life'. Hard life my ass. Look at the starving refugees who are in fear for their lives and those of their families. Look at families whose children are dying every day from hunger and disease. It is appalling to say that sorry excuse for a woman has had it hard.
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Are you listening and reading with full respect, because I don't think she is a bully.

She can be really nasty at times, she is loud,she is foul mouthed but that doesn't make her a bully, as with in many series of BB the word bully is misused as to describe someone.

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People being bullied and those bullying generally are often only found out that it is taking place by accident, since bullies often operate in a cowardly fashion.
I agree Joey ,real bullies hide it well,are sly and manipulative,nothing at all like Helen really,she is just a hot head who doesn't think before she says something,real bullies are very calculated,Hmmm ,that actually reminds me of someone
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I agree Joey ,real bullies hide it well,are sly and manipulative,nothing at all like Helen really,she is just a hot head who doesn't think before she says something,real bullies are very calculated,Hmmm ,that actually reminds me of someone
Bullies don't say sorry either. Never ever.
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What annoys me is that she basically only got there with a pass, so she is lucky that she even got to the Finals if it wasnt for Jazzi P and her power.
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