[Josy]

Who came out looking the worst in that argument there between Dee and Gary?

Gary seemed a bit grumpy in the kitchen tbf but then I think Dee completely over reacted then resorted to threats of violence and proceeded to bitch for an hour in the kitchen to anyone who would listen, she also felt the need to repeat the same insult over and over..

I also think she was gunning for Gary a bit after the kitchen incident because she was sitting on the sofa growling at him when he was in the kitchen.

Gary went into the room, lay on the bed and never said anything else about it.

So taking all that into account I think Dee looked a right twat.

[zakman440]

Definitely Dee.

[jessicadanielle]

Dee definitely. I agree Gary in the living room was grumpy, but outside she was just being ridiculous. Where did all of this "don't get in my face" while getting in Gary's face business come from? He wasn't in her face at all imo.

[abhorson]

99% Dee. 1% for the benefit!

[bots]

Originally Posted by Josy

So taking all that into account I think Dee looked a right twat.

Gary is a great communicator, although the other housemates refuse to see it or understand it.

No one has the depth or the intelligence to take Gary on in there so what we saw was Dee resorting to dirty tactics to try and gain the upper hand, failing miserably. I would imagine, in the outside world, she would have taken a physical swipe at Gary by now, maybe that's harsh of me, but its how she comes across to me. I think she is someone that uses her size and physicality to dominate people

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Gary is a great communicator, although the other housemates refuse to see it or understand it.

No one has the depth or the intelligence to take Gary on in there so what we saw was Dee resorting to dirty tactics to try and gain the upper hand, failing miserably. I would imagine, in the outside world, she would have taken a physical swipe at Gary by now, maybe that's harsh of me, but its how she comes across to me. I think she is someone that uses her size and physicality to dominate people

I agree that in some ways Gary is a great communicator, but the whole concept of having good communication skills means being able to adapt them to fit the audience and purpose. Gary fails to do that imo, it's why he's always called rude.

Agree about Dee btw, I'd be quite intimidated by her if I'm honest.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

I agree that in some ways Gary is a great communicator, but the whole concept of having good communication skills means being able to adapt them to fit the audience and purpose. Gary fails to do that imo, it's why he's always called rude.

Agree about Dee btw, I'd be quite intimidated by her if I'm honest.

He has trouble with accents and knowing what terms are in use, he therefore misunderstands. His deafness does not help one bit. It is a fact that different things have alternative meanings in different cultures. It cant be easy for him.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by Jules2

He has trouble with accents and knowing what terms are in use, he therefore misunderstands. His deafness does not help one bit. It is a fact that different things have alternative meanings in different cultures. It cant be easy for him.

I didn't really mean his comprehension of what other people says, but the way he speaks to others. He often talks about abstract things which can alienate some people.

There's nothing wrong with that btw, I'm just commenting on the opinion of another forum member that Gary is a great communicator.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

I didn't really mean his comprehension of what other people says, but the way he speaks to others. He often talks about abstract things which can alienate some people.

There's nothing wrong with that btw, I'm just commenting on the opinion of another forum member that Gary is a great communicator.

Ah I was just generalising tbh but because he talks on the spiritual line it is definitely a difficult thing for many to understand. His logic is understandable though if they could get past the thinking "rude" bit. I would love to sit and have a chat with him.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Gary is a great communicator, although the other housemates refuse to see it or understand it.

No one has the depth or the intelligence to take Gary on in there so what we saw was Dee resorting to dirty tactics to try and gain the upper hand, failing miserably. I would imagine, in the outside world, she would have taken a physical swipe at Gary by now, maybe that's harsh of me, but its how she comes across to me. I think she is someone that uses her size and physicality to dominate people

I was thinking that myself, she would make a terrible carer in any sort of home, she is far to nosey and feels she has to interfere in everyones business. Her boyfriend already has a wife/partner and a child cant remember which, I wonder if she knows and if she does then she doesnt have much thought for the child.....

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Dee 100%

[Cherie]

Bitter bitch Dee

[Pete.]

Tbh this is Gary's 100th argument so at this stage he's coming across as really rude

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

Tbh this is Gary's 100th argument so at this stage he's coming across as really rude

After the way they all treat him i say they deserve a bit of their own medicine.

[Mystic Mock]

Well on shallow reasons Dee, to do with the actual argument Dee as she thinks that she's Helen from BB15 but she lacks almost everything that Helen had about her that made Helen entertaining to watch.

[Northern Monkey]

I can't believe at the start i said something along the lines of "Dee is a lovely woman".She has certainly smashed that theory,God she's awful.Every time anybody nominates someone she likes in f2f's she pulls that nasty spiteful face,Threatening a 70 year old man with physical and mental problems is disgusting,She is a scumbag.She does'nt deserve to be in any show with the word "Celebrity" in the title or infront of any TV camera.I don't ever use the word "vile" but for her it is very fitting.Awful!

[Liam-]

Gary was definitely in the wrong, he got in her face first.. And the went on to mock and patronise her as they were having a conversation, he purposely wound her up and had a massive smile on his face as he did so, Dee had every right to get annoyed.. The 'smash his face in' comment wasn't necessary, but Gary was totally in the wrong.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Gary was definitely in the wrong, he got in her face first.. And the went on to mock and patronise her as they were having a conversation, he purposely wound her up and had a massive smile on his face as he did so, Dee had every right to get annoyed.. The 'smash his face in' comment wasn't necessary, but Gary was totally in the wrong.

If you watched it on LF Dee had a smirk on her face most of the time, she was smirking to someone else who wasnt shown, it was possibly George as Gary wanted to talk to him and she wouldnt let him. There was a bit more to it. It is about time Gary has something to say to the so and sos they have had a whale of a time with him. She was downright nasty to him.

[colin72]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Gary was definitely in the wrong, he got in her face first..

Give me a break. He leaned forward for a split second as she was looking away as a way to get her attention and emphasize what he was saying. It was NOT an aggressive move.

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

he purposely wound her up and had a massive smile on his face as he did so

How can you be so wrong so often?

He did not purposely wind her up. He was trying to understand her and be understood. She lost patience with him. It was obvious she was angry about other things. After she said, "I'm not your carer", she said "no one wants you touching their food because of your hygiene Gary". WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT?

And about him smiling... How can he not think she's a joke after how she had just blew up at him and stormed off? The sight of the fat whale with a bad haircut waddling away would have made anyone smile.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by colin72

Give me a break. He leaned forward for a split second as she was looking away as a way to get her attention and emphasize what he was saying. It was NOT an aggressive move.



How can you be so wrong so often?

He did not purposely wind her up. He was trying to understand her and be understood. She lost patience with him. It was obvious she was angry about other things. After she said, "I'm not your carer", she said "no one wants you touching their food because of your hygiene Gary". WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT?

And about him smiling... How can he not think she's a joke after how she had just blew up at him and stormed off? The sight of the fat whale with a bad haircut waddling away would have made anyone smile.

I didn't say it was an aggressive move, i said he got in her face, that's never nice to experience no matter who you are.
Let's not forget that he had already asked her 'Do you want a fight?' in the living room before now and she got annoyed by that already, but we're not going to mention that are we? the fact that he was reveling in winding her up, okay then.
Secondly, i am not 'wrong so often' because i only ever state my opinion and i never state that as fact, unlike other people seem to be fond of doing on here, so therefore i can't be wrong because everyone is entitled to believe what they believe, i won't tell you you're wrong, so don't tell me, or others are wrong because they disagree with you.
Oh and if you were as big of a Gary fan as you seem to be, you'd realise that Gary is a spiritual person and believes that it's what on the insides that counts, one of the traits i do admire him for, so he wouldn't have been laughing at the 'fat whale' walking off because he's not a judgmental person, unlike many people out there, Bye Felicia.

Ps, welcome to the forum

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I didn't say it was an aggressive move, i said he got in her face, that's never nice to experience no matter who you are.
Let's not forget that he had already asked her 'Do you want a fight?' in the living room before now and she got annoyed by that already, but we're not going to mention that are we? the fact that he was reveling in winding her up, okay then.
Secondly, i am not 'wrong so often' because i only ever state my opinion and i never state that as fact, unlike other people seem to be fond of doing on here, so therefore i can't be wrong because everyone is entitled to believe what they believe, i won't tell you you're wrong, so don't tell me, or others are wrong because they disagree with you.
Oh and if you were as big of a Gary fan as you seem to be, you'd realise that Gary is a spiritual person and believes that it's what on the insides that counts, one of the traits i do admire him for, so he wouldn't have been laughing at the 'fat whale' walking off because he's not a judgmental person, unlike many people out there, Bye Felicia.

Ps, welcome to the forum

As I have mentioned, we didnt get to the bottom of that as we werent shown what went on before. The only thing I know is that Madam Dee was yapping about Frenchy. Now had someone else said to her the same thing, she would have laughed and they would have had a joke, but of course this was Gary. He has proven that he is not aggressive, he is to be admired with everything he has had to put up with and yet, he thanks them.

Many people can pick up the inside attitude of others, now I would say that Dee was already on the warpath about something, we shall never know. He could have been trying to diffuse the situation but of course, this was Dee, mind you none of them have even tried to understand Gary's humour.

Did you watch the LF, Dee was winding Gary up because he couldnt understand, she was smirking to someone else, there was mischeif in her eyes, she thought it was funny. Then she sprouted to the rest of the HMs and threatened to smash his face in. Lovely lass, I hope she gets picked up on it if not there should be a lot of complaints for letting her get away with it. She is despicable.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Jules2

As I have mentioned, we didnt get to the bottom of that as we werent shown what went on before. The only thing I know is that Madam Dee was yapping about Frenchy. Now had someone else said to her the same thing, she would have laughed and they would have had a joke, but of course this was Gary. He has proven that he is not aggressive, he is to be admired with everything he has had to put up with and yet, he thanks them.

Many people can pick up the inside attitude of others, now I would say that Dee was already on the warpath about something, we shall never know. He could have been trying to diffuse the situation but of course, this was Dee, mind you none of them have even tried to understand Gary's humour.

Did you watch the LF, Dee was winding Gary up because he couldnt understand, she was smirking to someone else, there was mischeif in her eyes, she thought it was funny. Then she sprouted to the rest of the HMs and threatened to smash his face in. Lovely lass, I hope she gets picked up on it if not there should be a lot of complaints for letting her get away with it. She is despicable.

But we do know where it came from, it was all due to the conversation that was had between them by the table about surprise evictions, Gary understood what Dee was saying and it was all fine, then went off on a tangent like Gary does quite regularly, which confused Dee and she got frustrated, that's when he came out with the line 'do you want a fight?' because he could see that she was getting annoyed/frustrated, whether he did it on purpose can be argued until we've all turned blue, but it wound her up.
And i agree with you about the comment she made, it wasn't necessary, but i don't think she should be particularly given warning about it, but she should definitely be told that things like that shouldn't be said in the house, whether joking or not.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Gary was definitely in the wrong, he got in her face first.. And the went on to mock and patronise her as they were having a conversation, he purposely wound her up and had a massive smile on his face as he did so, Dee had every right to get annoyed.. The 'smash his face in' comment wasn't necessary, but Gary was totally in the wrong.

At no time did any part of Gary's anatomy leave his own space in his chair. On the other hand, Truffle Pig leant over into Gary's space and virtually pushed her snout into his face. Then she prodded and poked with her grubby little trotters as she went completely OTT and grunted and squealed like a wild boar.

Whilst on the subject of Truffle Pig; I find it astonishing that she had the temerity to ever lecture Gary (or anyone for that matter) on hygiene - did you see her house/Sty on Benefit Street? The Truffle Pig is not a celebrity. She has no talent which could ever justify her being classified as a celebrity, and as far as her (and Duane Doberman George) being 'normal' and therefore worthy of the 'common man's' vote - she is definitely NOT normal. Normal people are not 2 faced, obsequious, sycophantic, manipulative, scheming, vindictive **** stirrers, and there are millions of honest, hard working, decent 'ordinary' people out there who are far more worthy of inclusion in the Celebrity Big Brother House and far more deserving of being made celebrities and receiving all the wealth, privileges, and benefits (no pun intended - oh-- OK then it was) that come with it. Get the Fat Pig out.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

At no time did any part of Gary's anatomy leave his own space in his chair. On the other hand, Truffle Pig leant over into Gary's space and virtually pushed her snout into his face. Then she prodded and poked with her grubby little trotters as she went completely OTT and grunted and squealed like a wild boar.

Whilst on the subject of Truffle Pig; I find it astonishing that she had the temerity to ever lecture Gary (or anyone for that matter) on hygiene - did you see her house/Sty on Benefit Street? The Truffle Pig is not a celebrity. She has no talent which could ever justify her being classified as a celebrity, and as far as her (and Duane Doberman George) being 'normal' and therefore worthy of the 'common man's' vote - she is definitely NOT normal. Normal people are not 2 faced, obsequious, sycophantic, manipulative, scheming, vindictive **** stirrers, and there are millions of honest, hard working, decent 'ordinary' people out there who are far more worthy of inclusion in the Celebrity Big Brother House and far more deserving of being made celebrities and receiving all the wealth, privileges, and benefits (no pun intended - oh-- OK then it was) that come with it. Get the Fat Pig out.

Okay my dear

[MojoNixon]

True votes, not fixed ones