[GiRTh]

James Jordan: I'm not a bully!

Did you feel Gary won because it might have looked liked you all ganged up on him?

I don't know. Even my wife Ola said I bullied Gary! Honestly, that's wasn't true. I don't know what you've seen. He spat everywhere, I wiped up when he pxxxed. I even showered that man and saw things a man of my age shouldn't have to see just to help him out. I hate bullies and I know I'm not a bully.


It sounds a bit like living with an ape in a sanctuary.

As George said, we weren't in there to be a baby sitters. But I helped him because I felt sorry for the guy. That said, when he was rude, of course I was going to say "Don't be rude to me." He could be incredible unpleasant and it wasn't funny.


Any further thoughts on being the Brad Pitt of the dance world...

Oh dear. It was never my intention to say seriously I was the Brad Pitt of the dance world. That will be hanging over me for the rest of my life! Again it was my humour that was misunderstood.

Do you regret anything you've ever said....

No! What are people going to do? Sue me for my opinions?


Are you trying to be a male Katie Hopkins with your controversial views?

Not really. If people ask me for my opinion, I'm happy to give it. Take Strictly. I think the show would be better with a man and a woman presenting it. That isn't taking anything away from the brilliance of Claudia. She's witty and clever. But I loved the way, Brucie came down and danced with Tess. A man and a woman can dance elegantly together around the floor and that is what the show is about, after all. That's just my opinion.


You also said, some of the dancers are a bit beige...

It's true.

Now you aren't on Strictly. What's next for you....

(Laughs) Believe it or not, I'd love to get into presenting. I'm too quirky for the BBC but there is a show for me out there. All I need is someone to believe in me as much as I beleive in myself.

Source

Damn!!!!!. even Ola says James bullied Gary but this tw*t still doesn't see it.

[Robodog]

So saying 'i'm the brad pitt of the dance world' was yet another one of James's 'jokes' then ?

There was nothing at the time to indicate it was a joke, no humour in his tone, nor in the conversation at any point. If anything - James seemed fairly heated when trying to explain to Gary about his 'brad pitt' status and dancing achievements.

Strange how whenever someone later picks up on something James says that's either embarrassing or rude - it just so happens he was 'only joking'.

hmmmm...

[Mick]

Originally Posted by Robodog

So saying 'i'm the brad pitt of the dance world' was yet another one of James's 'jokes' then ?

There was nothing at the time to indicate it was a joke, no humour in his tone, nor in the conversation at any point. If anything - James seemed fairly heated when trying to explain to Gary about his 'brad pitt' status and dancing achievements.

Strange how whenever someone later picks up on something James says that's either embarrassing or rude - it just so happens he was 'only joking'.

hmmmm...

Honesty and humour are great characteristic's for any human to have but to use them as a justification for his behaviours is shallow and sad.

RE The Brad Pitt comment he meant it and Gary did him with just four words "Who told you that"......super honk.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Mick

Honesty and humour are great characteristic's for any human to have but to use them as a justification for his behaviours is shallow and sad.

RE The Brad Pitt comment he meant it and Gary did him with just four words "Who told you that"......super honk.

i know its hilarious gary trumped him effortlessly every time...ultimately gary is a kinder more genuine warm hearted soul, its ironic the hollywood legend was more humble than any of them even the workshy lard ass devious dee
God bless you gary

[icecakes]

God help his parents if they ever get old and needy,he'll soon have them shipped of to the old peoples home,he wants to be careful,no one know's what's round the corner one small accident,he could end up needing help just to do every day things people take for granted

[ThriceShy]

Even my wife Ola said I bullied Gary!

Well, if most of the british public said you bullied gary and now your own wife says that you bullied him, then perhaps it is time to accept that you bullied him.

[Spoon]

If it was a joke, he should have said haha.

[rubberface]

Originally Posted by Spoon

If it was a joke, he should have said haha.

We cant be all wrong!

[Tip]

Originally Posted by rubberface

We cant be all wrong!

Quite right, as our politicians prove.

Actually I don't think he was a bully - but I think Gabrielle was spot on in calling them "gits".

[Xtopher]

Originally Posted by Spoon

If it was a joke, he should have said haha.

[delta]

You don't think he was a bully but his wife thought he was Hmm - enough said.


Unemployable cya on benefit street with the other piece of work Meatloaf Dee. Maybe they could do a sitcom together The Bullies of Benefit Street.

[Tip]

Originally Posted by delta

You don't think he was a bully but his wife thought he was Hmm - enough said.


Unemployable cya on benefit street with the other piece of work Meatloaf Dee. Maybe they could do a sitcom together The Bullies of Benefit Street.

Yep, I don't define bully the same way apparently, and maybe Gary and BB doesn't either?

I'm with a lot of other people in thinking that if you overuse the "bully" card you do a great disservice to those that are being bullied.

If Gary was genuinely being bullied then what were people doing watching it and not trying getting the program shut down?

I'm speaking as one that has been bullied and has seen bullying going on and stepped in to get it stopped, but I don't claim to be an expert.

[delta]

Originally Posted by Tip

Yep, I don't define bully the same way apparently, and maybe Gary and BB doesn't either?

I'm with a lot of other people in thinking that if you overuse the "bully" card you do a great disservice to those that are being bullied.

If Gary was genuinely being bullied then what were people doing watching it and not trying getting the program shut down?

I'm speaking as one that has been bullied and has seen bullying going on and stepped in to get it stopped, but I don't claim to be an expert.

Read this and then come back to me and see if you don't recognise his behavior in at least two of them. Sorry to hear that you were bullied and I understand what you are saying but as the article states there are so many different types of bully - I am guessing that you suffered the one that we all know?

For me it was a clear sign of bullying. He was a leader of a pack that laughed, belittled. ostracised, ridiculed a guest to this country. It was a concerted effort by two house bullies with different ways of operating to try and get him to crack. Both of these people were warned about their behavior and told in no uncertain terms that they had to change. Notice how early on in the program Bully Elliot started to 'reluctantly' help him. Not through choice. Meatloaf Dee was the same. On both occasions the ensuing help was begrudging and false.

So- clearly you bullying must have been more of the direct physical type? But for you not to recognise the above as bullying surprises me. Just to reiterate- BB did step into stop the abuse of an old man with lots of problems, the Daily Star did run a top saying the ' Most hated man in Britain" - His wife has come out and said he did bully Gary. Ofcom did receive hundreds of complaints about his mistreatment. How much evidence do you want? Oh and a large swathe of Britain thought the same.

Anyway, here you go the 6 types of bullying.


http://bullying.about.com/od/Basics/...f-Bullying.htm

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Tip

Yep, I don't define bully the same way apparently, and maybe Gary and BB doesn't either?

I'm with a lot of other people in thinking that if you overuse the "bully" card you do a great disservice to those that are being bullied.

If Gary was genuinely being bullied then what were people doing watching it and not trying getting the program shut down?

I'm speaking as one that has been bullied and has seen bullying going on and stepped in to get it stopped, but I don't claim to be an expert.

I have been watching it since the beginning and have come to the conclusion that it would be a good idea to have it closed down, perhaps some should look into it for the sake of the oncoming youngsters. There are many who think the same and if they arent careful it will come to fruition.

[Angelika]

[QUOTE=Tip;7266277]If Gary was genuinely being bullied then what were people doing watching it and not trying getting the program shut down?

I have already answered a similar question #43
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...t=#post7267062

Originally Posted by Tip

I'm speaking as one that has been bullied and has seen bullying going on and stepped in to get it stopped, but I don't claim to be an expert.

Some people don't recognise when they are being bullied or being abused, Gary had great insight and did realise that every one of his fellow HM's hated him.

Gary was abused and bullied endlessly in the CBB house by almost every other housemate incredibly.

[rusticgal]

Presenting.......nobody wants to even see your face on TV again let alone have a speaking part.
Just go back to your teaching job where you can tell people what to do to your hearts content.

[Shaun]

'too quirky for the BBC'

interesting synonym for unknown, uninteresting, unpleasant and untalented

[Creggle]

He was quite decent to Gary actions wise though.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Creggle

He was quite decent to Gary actions wise though.

Sorry no way was he decent, he pretended to help him and to bully him and then he went out and made fun of him. He didnt continue it though when Audley sat in the room with Gary, he began but then left it to Audley to talk to Gary. This was when DEE asked EDELLE and GEORGE to be quiet because Gary couldnt hear, Gary then got all the flack because he said they liked being loud. Then we get the overvamped performance of Edelle victimising herself, George telling Gary that he had been rude but hey ho off we go and off they went. Who was it Edelle was chatting to with a raised voice and telling them to be quiet etc. etc. but as she said Gary was easy pickings. Pot calling Kettle black or is it the other way around.

James was a bully and a coward in the face of Gary getting support from Audley. For one reason or another Lauren began to see the light, perhaps it was Audley putting her right and trying to get her out of the grip of that idiot DEE.

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by Jules2

Sorry no way was he decent, he pretended to help him and to bully him and then he went out and made fun of him. He didnt continue it though when Audley sat in the room with Gary, he began but then left it to Audley to talk to Gary. This was when DEE asked EDELLE and GEORGE to be quiet because Gary coudnt hear, Gary then got all the flack because he said they liked being loud. Then we get the overvamped performance of Edelle victimising herself, George telling Gary that he had been rude but hey ho off we go and off they went. Who was it Edelle was chatting to with a raised voice and telling them to be quiet etc. etc. but as she said Gary was easy pickings. Pot calling Kettle black or is it the other way around.

James was a bully and a coward in the face of Gary getting support from Audley. For one reason or another Lauren began to see the light, perhaps it was Audley putting her right and trying to get her out of the grip of that idiot DEE.

He still did alot for Gary

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Creggle

He still did alot for Gary

Yes he made it worse for him and he did it with relish.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Creggle

He still did alot for Gary

So did Audley...he didn't keep harping on about it wanting a ****ing medal though did he?...

Why keep talking about it? Emphasising on Gary's inadequeces... James can't help wanting credit for any little thing rather than being humble and simply doing things out of the kindness of his heart and not seeking adulation for every little nice thing he does for people.

He is constantly seeking approval and gratification because he is a taker...life is all about him. If he gives he wants praise...selfish to the core.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

So did Audley...he didn't keep harping on about it wanting a ****ing medal though did he?...

Why keep talking about it? Emphasising on Gary's inadequeces... James can't help wanting credit for any little thing rather than being humble and simply doing things out of the kindness of his heart and not seeking adulation for every little nice thing he does for people.

He is constantly seeking approval and gratification because he is a taker...life is all about him. If he gives he wants praise...selfish to the core.

[Tip]

@Delta

I've read all the types of bullying - you can get them to fit all kinds of situations where people are being negative about others and in conflict with them. You have to take different things into account.

I do see why you feel that definition might fit, and I'm not trying to dissuade you.

I'll never understand why people would watch this program night after night if they thought bullying was going on - it's one thing to gossip and rant about it on a forum but that's hardly really stopping bullying.

So perhaps the "bullying" wasn't that bad after all?

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Tip

@Delta

I've read all the types of bullying - you can get them to fit all kinds of situations where people are being negative about others and in conflict with them. You have to take different things into account.

I do see why you feel that definition might fit, and I'm not trying to dissuade you.

I'll never understand why people would watch this program night after night if they thought bullying was going on - it's one thing to gossip and rant about it on a forum but that's hardly really stopping bullying.

So perhaps the "bullying" wasn't that bad after all?

Many wrote to Offwat, there was also a Society who intervened, did it stop no. Dee got away threatening to smash his head in (or something to that effect) James got away with all his nasty inuendos, the worst one being to say that Gary should be in a dog pen. These are facts but nothing was done.