[Redway]

A British holidaymaker has been jailed in Morocco for "homosexual acts", according to his family.

Ray Cole, 70, from Deal in Kent was arrested last week and imprisoned for four months. Mr Cole's son said he had been sleeping on a concrete floor and sharing with "murderers, rapists and paedophiles."

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-1...-for-gay-acts/

[Crimson Dynamo]

If he broke the law what is the story?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If he broke the law what is the story?

This.

It's wrong and fundamentally immoral that it's against the law, but it's still the countries law, if he broke it, then, they have the right to put him in prison, no matter how wrong that is.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If he broke the law what is the story?

Well, that's the thing and of course Morocco is entitled to sentence him no matter how wrong that is.

[Marsh.]

A 70 year old engaging in gay acts.

[VanessaFeltz.]

If being homosexual is against the laws, then that country is pretty much ****ed up. Specially if that person has to sleep with real criminals in jail.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by MelihV

If being homosexual is against the laws, then that country is pretty much ****ed up. Specially if that person has to sleep with real criminals in jail.

Well we know that, most countries these days know that's ****ed up, but to them, it's acceptable to see homosexual acts as being illegal, that's the normal thought process for them obviously.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Well we know that, most countries these days know that's ****ed up, but to them, it's acceptable to see homosexual acts as being illegal, that's the normal thought process for them obviously.

It is understandable people are unfamiliar with "gay thing" and i know you cant expect people to understand quickly (i live in an islamic country) but you cant put people in jail with people who rapes other people, kills and steals just because they are diffrent.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by MelihV

It is understandable people are unfamiliar with "gay thing" and i know you cant expect people to understand quickly (i live in an islamic country) but you cant put people in jail with people who rapes other people, kills and steals just because they are diffrent.

In their eyes you can, they see it as being just as bad as those crimes, it's disgusting that they do, but that's what they believe and stand by, It's down to them if they want to change and see things differently, no-one can force them too.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

In their eyes you can, they see it as being just as bad as those crimes, it's disgusting that they do, but that's what they believe and stand by, It's down to them if they want to change and see things differently, no-one can force them too.

People have rights to act however they want but they dont have a right to effect other peoples life like that.

[joeysteele]

Seems a harsh sentence to me but some Countries are way behind the civilised World as to the rights of Gay people,they are Countries best avoided in my opinion and places certainly to take great care in when in them too.

If it is against their laws then they will obviously act against the individual/s,to me however their laws are wrong but that's another story.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Seems a harsh sentence to me but some Countries are way behind the civilised World as to the rights of Gay people,they are Countries best avoided in my opinion and places certainly to take great care in when in them too.

If it is against their laws then they will obviously act against the individual/s,to me however their laws are wrong but that's another story.

Bollocks it is


Gays are Illegal in loads of Nations



You a Student
need to travel more

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Bollocks it is


Gays are Illegal in loads of Nations



You a Student
need to travel more

arista, to me it is a harsh sentence, to me it is ridiculous any Nation still has these daft laws as to homosexuality, people cannot help being gay,it shouldn't be a criminal act anywhere in my view.

I have travelled plenty already in my life up to now being 22 and I am,by the way,no longer a student arista, I graduated over a year ago actually.

This clearly was against their laws so some 'dealing' with that in such a Country would be necessary,however to imprison someone of 70, is to me, way over the top.
Unless his interest was towards minors.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

This clearly was against their laws so some 'dealing' with that in such a Country would be necessary,however to imprison someone of 70, is to me, way over the top.
Unless his interest was towards minors.

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[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

arista, to me it is a harsh sentence, to me it is ridiculous any Nation still has these daft laws as to homosexuality, people cannot help being gay,it shouldn't be a criminal act anywhere in my view.

I have travelled plenty already in my life up to now being 22 and I am,by the way,no longer a student arista, I graduated over a year ago actually.

This clearly was against their laws so some 'dealing' with that in such a Country would be necessary,however to imprison someone of 70, is to me, way over the top.
Unless his interest was towards minors.

I was going to mention this but there's no question of it as yet, it will be interesting to see why he traveled to this locale especially.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

arista, to me it is a harsh sentence, to me it is ridiculous any Nation still has these daft laws as to homosexuality, people cannot help being gay,it shouldn't be a criminal act anywhere in my view.

I have travelled plenty already in my life up to now being 22 and I am,by the way,no longer a student arista, I graduated over a year ago actually.

This clearly was against their laws so some 'dealing' with that in such a Country would be necessary,however to imprison someone of 70, is to me, way over the top.
Unless his interest was towards minors.

OK you are beyond
a Student now
well done



But you must respect every Nations Rules
Thats so Fecking simple

[arista]

Originally Posted by Redway

A British holidaymaker has been jailed in Morocco for "homosexual acts", according to his family.

Ray Cole, 70, from Deal in Kent was arrested last week and imprisoned for four months. Mr Cole's son said he had been sleeping on a concrete floor and sharing with "murderers, rapists and paedophiles."

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-1...-for-gay-acts/

Yes it was on his mobile phone the police found stuff.

But he knew the Laws of that nation.

Being Gay is Illegal in Loads of Countrys.



He rolled his dice
and got bad numbers

[Redway]

Originally Posted by arista

Being Gay is Illegal in Loads of Countrys.

No shit.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes it was on his mobile phone the police found stuff.

But he knew the Laws of that nation.

Being Gay is Illegal in Loads of Countrys.



He rolled his dice
and got bad numbers

But what grounds did the police have for looking on his phone in the first place ?




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[arista]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

But what grounds did the police have for looking on his phone in the first place ?




.

It was not just the phone
locals had told told the Police
he was with a younger man
and they were more than friends.

At the time they Questioned them
they then had Full Right to look at
his Phone photos etc.



It is all Very Logical
as in that nation being gay is
Illegal.


Next time the Sugar Daddy
travels - make sure its not a Illegal Gay Nation

[Ammi]

A British holidaymaker jailed in Morocco for being gay has had a tearful reunion with his family as he returned to the UK following his release from prison.

Ray Cole, 69, was imprisoned for four months with his Moroccan friend Jamal Jam Wald Nass after homosexual images were found on his password-protected phone.

The pair were languishing in a crowded, barbed-wire topped Marrakesh jail but Mr Cole was granted a conditional release today after an appeal was lodged.

Mr Cole was met by his family at Gatwick airport last night and told reporters that he was "relieved" to be back home.

His son, Adrian Cole, 41, said: "Our legal team in Marrakesh lodged an appeal today.

"It has moved much faster than we expected and the court was able to take the step of releasing my father.

"We would like to express our gratitude as a family to the thousands of people who have offered us their support and kindness. I would also like to offer my thanks to the Moroccan authorities."

The case has generated huge interest on social media from supporters who asked for the Moroccan authorities to free retired Mr Cole, from Deal, Kent.

As well as a petition, a "Free Ray Cole" hashtag circulated on Twitter and a Facebook page was set up calling for the release of Mr Cole, who has a minor heart condition.

He struck up a friendship with Mr Nass, who is in his 20s, on Facebook. It was on Mr Cole's second visit to Morocco to see him that they were detained at a bus stop by officers.

Mr Cole, who is 70 on October 25, was four weeks into a five-week break in the north African country when the pair were held on September 18.

Confusion initially reigned over where he was being held until he was eventually tracked down.

On October 2 his family received a phone call telling them the pair had been jailed for four months. They had feared a six-month jail term as a worst-case scenario.

He was being kept in a cell intended for 44 men which was holding 60, forcing Mr Cole to sleep on the ground and live with dangerous prisoners.

Relatives tried to make his time behind bars more bearable by buying essentials, including multi-vitamins to compensate for the lack of nutritional food.

Adrian Cole said that the guards and prison governor had treated the family "graciously" and that his father's release had been a "massive step towards restoring my faith towards the Moroccan system".

Ray Coles, centre, is greeted by his family at Gatwick airport© Provided by Press Association Ray Coles, centre, is greeted by his family at Gatwick airport
The Foreign Office website says homosexuality is a criminal offence in Morocco.

It states: "Sexual relations outside marriage are also punishable by law."

But Mr Cole's local MP, Conservative Charlie Elphicke, branded the charges "medieval" and said it showed British tourists are not safe in Morocco.

Former deputy speaker of the House of Commons Nigel Evans also lashed out at the "archaic" law that sent Mr Cole to prison

[Cherie]

Maybe the ex deputy speaker should lash out at The European law that let's convicted murderers travel with impunity into the UK and let the Morrocans get on with it, no one is forced to go to Morroco, plenty other more enlightened countries to visit.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by arista

It was not just the phone
locals had told told the Police
he was with a younger man
and they were more than friends.

At the time they Questioned them
they then had Full Right to look at
his Phone photos etc.



It is all Very Logical
as in that nation being gay is
Illegal.


Next time the Sugar Daddy
travels - make sure its not a Illegal Gay Nation

So he was arrested on the word of a member of the public....wtf ???





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[Crimson Dynamo]

I thought that was where all the gays in the 60s and 70s went to get laid like Joe Orton etc?

[Kizzy]

It's funny how people are so worried about human rights in Morocco but not here, are we not thinking about doing away with the human rights act? What's happening in Morocco could very easily happen here if it were.
I feel for the guy but if that's the law as it stands atm then he has to accept the consequences, there are hundreds of other places he could have gone and been free to express his sexuality.