[Crimson Dynamo]

In the year that marks the centenary of the start of one of the costliest conflicts in our history, The Royal British Legion is encouraging everyone to support the Poppy Appeal for the memory of the fallen and the future of the living.

The Legion created the Poppy Appeal to help those returning from the First World War. A century on from the start of that conflict, we're still helping today's Armed Forces families in much the same way, whether coping with bereavement, living with disability, or finding employment.

When you donate to the Poppy Appeal you help:

bereaved families to Live On
wounded Service men and women to Live On
younger veterans seeking employment and housing to Live On
older veterans needing age-related care to Live On

http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/get-...d/poppy-appeal




or do you think it glorifies war and does not move us on as a society - should we learn about why we go to war and how humans are essentially warlike animals?

[Kazanne]

I always wear a poppy,and hope it helps in some small way.Really want to see that display in London.I don't think it glorifies it so much as it's nice to remember them.

[bots]

Maybe I'm being a bit controversial, but to me those needing assistance after a family member has served their country should be looked after by the country without needing a special appeal to achieve it.

Fine with the remembrance side if it, but the government (we) should pay for it by default.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Maybe I'm being a bit controversial, but to me those needing assistance after a family member has served their country should be looked after by the country without needing a special appeal to achieve it.

Fine with the remembrance side if it, but the government (we) should pay for it by default.

I always buy and wear Poppies but I do agree with you BitontheSlide. It's a disgrace that they don't receive all the support they need from the State. It infuriates me that St Dunstans has to rely on public donations to exist too - we seem to have ample tens of millions to squander elsewhere on those that not only have never fought for this Country but actually desire it's downfall.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I always buy and wear Poppies but I do agree with you BitontheSlide. It's a disgrace that they don't receive all the support they need from the State. It infuriates me that St Dunstans has to rely on public donations to exist too - we seem to have ample tens of millions to squander elsewhere on those that not only have never fought for this Country but actually desire it's downfall.

£300,000,000 a year to Ethiopia


http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ip-in-ethiopia

[Vanessa]

I'm not allowed to wear one at work, but i would buy it and wear it when i go out.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I'm not allowed to wear one at work, but i would buy it and wear it when i go out.

Why can't you wear one at work?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

£300,000,000 a year to Ethiopia


http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ip-in-ethiopia

This is so FKing infuriating. Who is responsible for formulating these insane policies? What's more sickening is that it's the tip of a very large iceberg.

[waterhog]

fab - saw babs and stacey on news this morning promoting it. love it.

[Kyle]

Yeh I get those pin badge ones instead of the plastic ones if I can.

[arista]

I will give money to them
But not wear a poppy


like that ITV1London news caster does not

[andybigbro]

Yeah, I hate the ones with no pins though.

What's the point? Where you meant to put it?

[JoshBB]

I'll probably wear a white poppy, yes.

[Kizzy]

I have a poppy yes, what are the white ones for?

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I have a poppy yes, what are the white ones for?

The white ones also promote pacifism (against any new wars to prevent more lost lives). They were introduced because there are some people who wear red poppies that want us to fight more 'to make our country proud'. As little deaths as possible is best in my opinion.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The white ones also promote pacifism (against any new wars to prevent more lost lives). They were introduced because there are some people who wear red poppies that want us to fight more 'to make our country proud'. As little deaths as possible is best in my opinion.

[T*]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The white ones also promote pacifism (against any new wars to prevent more lost lives). They were introduced because there are some people who wear red poppies that want us to fight more 'to make our country proud'. As little deaths as possible is best in my opinion.

W..what?! No-one in their right mind would wear a red one to state that they want more war.. It contradicts what the Poppy is meant for- To remember whom we lost in wars.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The white ones also promote pacifism (against any new wars to prevent more lost lives). They were introduced because there are some people who wear red poppies that want us to fight more 'to make our country proud'. As little deaths as possible is best in my opinion.

[T*]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The white ones also promote pacifism (against any new wars to prevent more lost lives). They were introduced because there are some people who wear red poppies that want us to fight more 'to make our country proud'. As little deaths as possible is best in my opinion.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The white ones also promote pacifism (against any new wars to prevent more lost lives). They were introduced because there are some people who wear red poppies that want us to fight more 'to make our country proud'. As little deaths as possible is best in my opinion.

Probably your most ridiculous post ever.

[T*]

Yes, of course. I will never not.

[rubymoo]

I always put money in the poppy box but i don't wear one, they have a little parade close to where i live......it always makes me cry i always feel sad for the loss of life.....

[Crimson Dynamo]

WHITE POPPIES ARE FOR PEACE

The idea of decoupling Armistice Day, the red poppy and later Remembrance Day from their military culture dates back to 1926, just a few years after the British Legion was persuaded to try using the red poppy as a fundraising tool in Britain.

A member of the No More War Movement suggested that the British Legion should be asked to imprint 'No More War' in the centre of the red poppies instead of ‘Haig Fund’ and failing this pacifists should make their own flowers.

The details of any discussion with the British Legion are unknown but as the centre of the red poppy displayed the ‘Haig Fund’ imprint until 1994 it was clearly not successful. A few years later the idea was again discussed by the Co-operative Women's Guild. In 1933 the first white poppies appeared on Armistice Day (called Remembrance Day after World War Two). The white poppy was not intended as an insult to those who died in the First World War - a war in which many of the white poppy supporters lost husbands, brothers, sons and lovers - but a challenge to the continuing drive to war. The following year the newly founded Peace Pledge Union began widespread distribution of the poppies and their annual promotion.

http://www.ppu.org.uk/whitepoppy/

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

WHITE POPPIES ARE FOR PEACE

The idea of decoupling Armistice Day, the red poppy and later Remembrance Day from their military culture dates back to 1926, just a few years after the British Legion was persuaded to try using the red poppy as a fundraising tool in Britain.

A member of the No More War Movement suggested that the British Legion should be asked to imprint 'No More War' in the centre of the red poppies instead of ‘Haig Fund’ and failing this pacifists should make their own flowers.

The details of any discussion with the British Legion are unknown but as the centre of the red poppy displayed the ‘Haig Fund’ imprint until 1994 it was clearly not successful. A few years later the idea was again discussed by the Co-operative Women's Guild. In 1933 the first white poppies appeared on Armistice Day (called Remembrance Day after World War Two). The white poppy was not intended as an insult to those who died in the First World War - a war in which many of the white poppy supporters lost husbands, brothers, sons and lovers - but a challenge to the continuing drive to war. The following year the newly founded Peace Pledge Union began widespread distribution of the poppies and their annual promotion.

http://www.ppu.org.uk/whitepoppy/

After the formation of the White Poppy in the thirties, how very fortunate for everyone here enjoying their freedom of speech and expression, that the "No More War" message wasn't adhered to. No one wants war, but sometimes you have to fight for a cause. Had there been 'No More War' we would probably be speaking German now. Well, not you, Trumpet, you'd probably have a smattering. And I wouldn't be here at all, and neither would any of my family.

No one wants war less than the people who have to fight them but sometimes it is necessary to take up arms. Luckily, there are people willing to do that, and sometimes give up their lives for our national freedom and I think that one day a year, it's not too much to ask to show them some respect and remembrance without someone wanting to hijack the message that is simply... We Will Remember Them.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Livia

After the formation of the White Poppy in the thirties, how very fortunate for everyone here enjoying their freedom of speech and expression, that the "No More War" message wasn't adhered to. No one wants war, but sometimes you have to fight for a cause. Had there been 'No More War' we would probably be speaking German now. Well, not you, Trumpet, you'd probably have a smattering. And I wouldn't be here at all, and neither would any of my family.

No one wants war less than the people who have to fight them but sometimes it is necessary to take up arms. Luckily, there are people willing to do that, and sometimes give up their lives for our national freedom and I think that one day a year, it's not too much to ask to show them some respect and remembrance without someone wanting to hijack the message that is simply... We Will Remember Them.

tbh, if World War One wasn't started then Hitler wouldn't have gone on to WW2. Germany wasn't responsible for WW1 however they were forced to take all responsibility which led to anger and the anti-semitism etc.