[johne]

Can anyone shed any light on the argument between Nadia and Kav around the kitchen table tonight when Kav said something like, "How can you support Perez when he did what he did to Alex." She then aggressively supported Perez to Kav, suggesting that Alex had done something far worse. It seemed to me that she thought what Alex had done was so bad that she didn't want to say it out loud on air. At least that's the impression I got.

[Denver]

Yes he sat there pulling faces, making gestures and staring at him until he retaliated

[johne]

Oh is that all. I thought something more serious may have gone on that we didn't see.

[Daniel-X]

He did nothing wrong. Alexander was DISGUSTING towards Perez telling him he didn't want him breathing over his food and he wouldn't eat it until he walked away. Grabbing his cock and asking him 'Want some of this?'. He was VILE. He was actually a pathetic excuse of time I wouldn't have give him my time of day he was a homophobic prick if he can't handle somebody sitting down and smiling just because he was pissed off with them previously because they dared to cough over his bed then he wasn't really cut out for the show.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by LuciaX

He did nothing wrong. Alexander was DISGUSTING towards Perez telling him he didn't want him breathing over his food and he wouldn't eat it until he walked away. Grabbing his cock and asking him 'Want some of this?'. He was VILE. He was actually a pathetic excuse of time I wouldn't have give him my time of day he was a homophobic prick if he can't handle somebody sitting down and smiling just because he was pissed off with them previously because they dared to cough over his bed then he wasn't really cut out for the show.

Dared cough over his bed? He deliberately and persistantly coughed over his bed, he even told us the viewers that it was a deliberate act.

I'm still unsure why Perez decided to target Alexander.

[Stormy]

Originally Posted by LuciaX

He did nothing wrong. Alexander was DISGUSTING towards Perez telling him he didn't want him breathing over his food and he wouldn't eat it until he walked away. Grabbing his cock and asking him 'Want some of this?'. He was VILE. He was actually a pathetic excuse of time I wouldn't have give him my time of day he was a homophobic prick if he can't handle somebody sitting down and smiling just because he was pissed off with them previously because they dared to cough over his bed then he wasn't really cut out for the show.

Sorry...but those where all reactions after Perez started antagonizing him. It was after Perez went beside his bed and woke him up by coughing relentlessly. Perez purposefully went after Alexander and admitted he was fake coughing to annoy him. It continued with Perez following him around and blowing kisses. All done to try and get Alexander to blow. After that, Alexander felt that Perez was after him and he could not even stand to be in the same room as him. Hence, the complaint about him "breathing into the food".

Do I agree with how Alexander handled it? No....but if you're going to poke a lion, don't cry because he bites you. It was Perez's fault...clear and simple.

Edited to add:

Nadia is implying that it was Alexander's fault because she needs an excuse for condoning it. She has no viable reason which is why she is claiming she "won't say anything about it". She could care less about Alexander, it's because she doesn't have a valid reason.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Stormy

Sorry...but those where all reactions after Perez started antagonizing him. It was after Perez went beside his bed and woke him up by coughing relentlessly. Perez purposefully went after Alexander and admitted he was fake coughing to annoy him. It continued with Perez following him around and blowing kisses. All done to try and get Alexander to blow. After that, Alexander felt that Perez was after him and he could not even stand to be in the same room as him. Hence, the complaint about him "breathing into the food".

Do I agree with how Alexander handled it? No....but if you're going to poke a lion, don't cry because he bites you. It was Perez's fault...clear and simple.

Edited to add:

Nadia is implying that it was Alexander's fault because she needs an excuse for condoning it. She has no viable reason which is why she is claiming she "won't say anything about it". She could care less about Alexander, it's because she doesn't have a valid reason.

yep.Truth.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Stormy

Sorry...but those where all reactions after Perez started antagonizing him. It was after Perez went beside his bed and woke him up by coughing relentlessly. Perez purposefully went after Alexander and admitted he was fake coughing to annoy him. It continued with Perez following him around and blowing kisses. All done to try and get Alexander to blow. After that, Alexander felt that Perez was after him and he could not even stand to be in the same room as him. Hence, the complaint about him "breathing into the food".

Do I agree with how Alexander handled it? No....but if you're going to poke a lion, don't cry because he bites you. It was Perez's fault...clear and simple.

Edited to add:

Nadia is implying that it was Alexander's fault because she needs an excuse for condoning it. She has no viable reason which is why she is claiming she "won't say anything about it". She could care less about Alexander, it's because she doesn't have a valid reason.

I still can't figure out why Perez started baiting Alexander in the first place

[Stormy]

Originally Posted by MrWong

I still can't figure out why Perez started baiting Alexander in the first place

Personally, I think that Perez didn't intend to go after Alexander, per se. He was just trying to annoy the houseguests for some attention and that night he picked Alexander to cough at. What he didn't expect was for Alexander to get so angry...instead of apologizing and diffusing the situation, Perez just upped his game and went after him because he didn't like how Alexander treated him after the coughing incident.

I love how Nadia went off on everyone tonight after Perez told her what they supposedly said (having no problem that she didn't see/hear it herself)...yet refuses to defend Alex because she has a problem with not seeing/hearing what Perez did to him. Pure example of a hypocrite.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Stormy

Personally, I think that Perez didn't intend to go after Alexander, per se. He was just trying to annoy the houseguests for some attention and that night he picked Alexander to cough at. What he didn't expect was for Alexander to get so angry...instead of apologizing and diffusing the situation, Perez just upped his game and went after him because he didn't like how Alexander treated him after the coughing incident.

I love how Nadia went off on everyone tonight after Perez told her what they supposedly said (having no problem that she didn't see/hear it herself)...yet refuses to defend Alex because she has a problem with not seeing/hearing what Perez did to him. Pure example of a hypocrite.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Stormy

Personally, I think that Perez didn't intend to go after Alexander, per se. He was just trying to annoy the houseguests for some attention and that night he picked Alexander to cough at. What he didn't expect was for Alexander to get so angry...instead of apologizing and diffusing the situation, Perez just upped his game and went after him because he didn't like how Alexander treated him after the coughing incident.

I love how Nadia went off on everyone tonight after Perez told her what they supposedly said (having no problem that she didn't see/hear it herself)...yet refuses to defend Alex because she has a problem with not seeing/hearing what Perez did to him. Pure example of a hypocrite.

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Alex complained about Perez breathing over his food because Perez had a virus and Alex thought it was disgusting someone doing that on purpose when they were ill.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LuciaX

He did nothing wrong. Alexander was DISGUSTING towards Perez telling him he didn't want him breathing over his food and he wouldn't eat it until he walked away. Grabbing his cock and asking him 'Want some of this?'. He was VILE. He was actually a pathetic excuse of time I wouldn't have give him my time of day he was a homophobic prick if he can't handle somebody sitting down and smiling just because he was pissed off with them previously because they dared to cough over his bed then he wasn't really cut out for the show.

I actually didn't mind Alexander, but I do agree with a lot of this, if Perez just being near him causes that reaction then he deserved to go imo.

[Semtex]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I actually didn't mind Alexander, but I do agree with a lot of this, if Perez just being near him causes that reaction then he deserved to go imo.

What about the constant goading, sleep depriving an old man by coughing all night not two feet from his bed? showing lack of respect. constantly blowing kisses and sticking his tongue between two fingers and simulating oral sex to Alexander when they were just sat chilling out on the sofas.
That's just what they showed us!

What he said in anger was wrong, no argument, but why did Perez target Alexander in the first place? Is he racist?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Semtex

What about the constant goading, sleep depriving an old man by coughing all night not two feet from his bed? showing lack of respect. constantly blowing kisses and sticking his tongue between two fingers and simulating oral sex to Alexander when they were just sat chilling out on the sofas.
That's just what they showed us!

What he said in anger was wrong, no argument, but why did Perez target Alexander in the first place? Is he racist?

The only thing there that Perez did wrong was the coughing, everything else was an overreaction on Alexander's part imo.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I actually didn't mind Alexander, but I do agree with a lot of this, if Perez just being near him causes that reaction then he deserved to go imo.

Alexander had no problem being near Perez before Perez started baiting him.

[poppsywoppsy]

Nadia is suggesting something else went on from Alex but won't tell what it is.

What a nasty woman she is, as she said, you can't keep it false all the time and she couldn't.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Nadia is suggesting something else went on from Alex but won't tell what it is.

What a nasty woman she is, as she said, you can't keep it false all the time and she couldn't.

She is claiming that the other housemates are lying and that she sw something else

[Daniel-X]

Originally Posted by adamski94

She is claiming that the other housemates are lying and that she sw something else

I already commented above what she saw him grabbing his cock asking him did he want some etc there's no denying Alexander was homophobic in my opinion...

[Denver]

Originally Posted by LuciaX

I already commented above what she saw him grabbing his cock asking him did he want some etc there's no denying Alexander was homophobic in my opinion...

You made it up and to say he was homophobic yet his best freind in there was gay

[Daniel-X]

Originally Posted by adamski94

You made it up and to say he was homophobic yet his best freind in there was gay

I didn't make it up watch the clip back I think I know what I saw...

I'm sick of you constantly trying to defend everyone who isn't Perez and Nadia by saying you didn't see or hear things

[Moosething]

Originally Posted by adamski94

You made it up and to say he was homophobic yet his best freind in there was gay

*says something racist*

I'm not racist... MY FRIEND IS BLACK

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Nadia is suggesting something else went on from Alex but won't tell what it is.

What a nasty woman she is, as she said, you can't keep it false all the time and she couldn't.

And this is the woman who would have us believe is open and honest!! Bollocks. Alexander didn't say much, but he didn't miss much either and he sussed Nadia and Perez out, which is why Perez wanted rid of him.

[sodak22]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

And this is the woman who would have us believe is open and honest!! Bollocks. Alexander didn't say much, but he didn't miss much either and he sussed Nadia and Perez out, which is why Perez wanted rid of him.

Exactly. Perez has been playing from the start. Ken and especially Alex had not a clue to the charade, they acted on impulse and fed into his BS first. What I cannot figure is if Nadia knew this all along and only wants to leave with her check or not....

[JTM45]

Absolutely NOT!!!!!!
I think Alexander's behaviour was far, far worse than anything Perez did to him.
Remember, Alexander was the one who received a warning for his behaviour towards Perez not the other way around!

All that crap about not eating food because Perez had 'breathed' near it was highly offensive and he did far worse besides.

[Vicky.]

Cant believe I missed all this alex/perez stuff