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CBB15 Celebrity Big Brother 2015 (CBB15) was shown January 2015 on CH5, and the winner was Katie Price. Discuss the series here.


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Old 03-02-2015, 12:15 AM #1
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It was a beautiful letter from a mother to her very precious son - it summed up how proud she was (is) of him. I was very touched by the words and senitments. I think KH said that it was from a poem writting by Kipling. Does any know the name of the poem and if the writer really was Kipling?
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Yes. The poem is called 'IF' by Rudyard Kipling. Wonderful poem.
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Yes. The poem is called 'IF' by Rudyard Kipling. Wonderful poem.
It is and it's one of my favourites. Last year on holiday in Britain I managed to get all of Kiplings verses.
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IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

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Really nice moment that letter being read out in the highlights tonight.
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I seen a documentary on George Best. His wife, Calum's mum, was former playboy bunny. It was obvious after the 1st line that those weren't her words.
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If I had a letter from home for the first time in a month and it was some random ass poem, I'd flip ****
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If I had a letter from home for the first time in a month and it was some random ass poem, I'd flip ****
Its the meaning behind those words and I have to say, Michell read out that poem with such emotion...it was quite special.
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Its the meaning behind those words and I have to say, Michell read out that poem with such emotion...it was quite special.
It just seemed to go on, and on, and on, and to be out of context. Calum's in the CBB - not on the battlefield.
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It just seemed to go on, and on, and on, and to be out of context. Calum's in the CBB - not on the battlefield.
Actually your right. For Xmas this year I was given my great, great grandfathers war hero medal along with a poem he had written to his wife just before he was killed on the Somme. I balled my eyes out when I read it because they were the last words to his family.

Perhaps it was a little OTT to write something so deep for such a show and I do think Callum was embarrassed.
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Its the meaning behind those words and I have to say, Michell read out that poem with such emotion...it was quite special.
michelle surprised me.......................great! to listen to her read

i agree shame! to have opportunity to write a personal letter then just

copy/paste a poem however wonderful it was

as usual pez can't resist poking..................

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If I had a letter from home for the first time in a month and it was some random ass poem, I'd flip ****
I was thinking that too
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his mom should have written an actual letter to her son as she was supposed to, instead of stealing someone else's words. it doesn't really seem personal, heartwarming, or creative.
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his mom should have written an actual letter to her son as she was supposed to, instead of stealing someone else's words. it doesn't really seem personal, heartwarming, or creative.

Well said. The letter was a load of ****.

The 'point' of a letter from home is to tell the person receiving it how his family are doing. Is George the goldfish being fed regularly? ETC.

It's not an opportunity to try and be clever. It's just boring.
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Brilliant poem, but not very personal, seemed to get to KH more than it did to Calum.
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I'm genuinely curious because I was a bit distracted last night but was there any message with Calum's letter or just the poem?
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it was a bit odd. When it was read out, he was told to study it and read it very slowly.

But when Perez said there was a message within it, calum bad mouthed him

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it was a bit odd. When it was read out, he was told to study it and read it very slowly.

But when Perez said there was a message within it, calum bad mouthed him
See I was thinking if there was no message at all apart from the poem then maybe there was a message in there somewhere that Callum could work out for himself.
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it was a bit odd. When it was read out, he was told to study it and read it very slowly.

But when Perez said there was a message within it, calum bad mouthed him
Not to his face though. He couldn't wait to run off to his little gang and tell them!!
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it was a bit odd. When it was read out, he was told to study it and read it very slowly.

But when Perez said there was a message within it, calum bad mouthed him
Omgoodness he didnt bad mouth him and the message,,,,,,, Perez was telling him that it was in code....trying to stir trouble. Well done Calum for not biting.
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Omgoodness he didnt bad mouth him and the message,,,,,,, Perez was telling him that it was in code....trying to stir trouble. Well done Calum for not biting.
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Omgoodness he didnt bad mouth him and the message,,,,,,, Perez was telling him that it was in code....trying to stir trouble. Well done Calum for not biting.
Yes he did, he went to his gang and said how perez had indicated that the letter contained a hidden message and that he didnt miss an opportunity to poke at KH. The fact is the letter said that Calum should read it very carefully and very slowly. If that doesn't indicate it has a meaning to him in the house, i don't know what does
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I think Perez may have been right. Maybe she was warning him about Cami and KH ?
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I'm genuinely curious because I was a bit distracted last night but was there any message with Calum's letter or just the poem?
Well according to that fruit loop Perez, there were several 'hidden' messages.
Has no one from the asylum noticed that Perez is missing yet?
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I actually felt embarrassed for Calum. I then muted the 'poem' half way through.
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