[arista]

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...dership-debate


Owen likes him

[Jack_]

He's right and I hope he gets enough nominations, I've just joined as a member and I'd at least like a plurality of choice between the candidates than there is at the minute.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jack_

He's right and I hope he gets enough nominations, I've just joined as a member and I'd at least like a plurality of choice between the candidates than there is at the minute.

No he is Old Labour
has no chance of winning

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by arista

No he is Old Labour
has no chance of winning

Of course he doesn't and he's probably not even going to get enough nominations. The point is that the debate should be about policies and where to position Labour on the political spectrum. If Jeremy isn't nominated we'll be deprived of a fair, interesting and meaningful debate since the rest of the candidates ideologies are extremely similar and the entire discussion will consist of months of throwing around words like 'aspiration'

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Of course he doesn't and he's probably not even going to get enough nominations. The point is that the debate should be about policies and where to position Labour on the political spectrum. If Jeremy isn't nominated we'll be deprived of a fair, interesting and meaningful debate since the rest of the candidates ideologies are extremely similar and the entire discussion will consist of months of throwing around words like 'aspiration'

Yes true

[MTVN]

Well it's good that he does offer a different perspective - the others are all very similar and even the 'left-wing' candidate in Burnham is actually pretty centrist.

He has no chance of winning though of course

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well it's good that he does offer a different perspective - the others are all very similar and even the 'left-wing' candidate in Burnham is actually pretty centrist.

He has no chance of winning though of course

Bang On Right

[Kizzy]

I'm going to out on a limb and say if Owen likes him I'll like him

[joeysteele]

I agree with a lot he says,although I never would a few years ago, and I am all for a good choice of candidates.

Let us see how he does.
I will decide which one of them gets my vote after I hear all they offer and what their vision is for the party.

He may not win,if all get the 35 MPs needed to stand.then 3 of those standing will not either but nothing ventured nothing gained.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree with a lot he says,although I never would a few years ago, and I am all for a good choice of candidates.

Let us see how he does.
I will decide which one of them gets my vote after I hear all they offer and what their vision is for the party.

He may not win,if all get the 35 MPs needed to stand.then 3 of those standing will not either but nothing ventured nothing gained.

Yes Joey
from the First page
He has done so well
he will Win with a Massive amount.

He has a Vision to get Industry Going.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Joey
from the First page
He has done so well
he will Win with a Massive amount.

He has a Vision to get Industry Going.

Undoubtedly, he has opened up the debate of this leadership election and also made it a real contest.

I get infuriated by other Labour party members who say he shouldn't win,he has every right to stand and win if the eligible party supporters deciding same vote for him.
I will probably not be voting for him because I really do not believe that he can reach the voters of the South particularly that Labour will need at least more of to win an election.

However, he could begin to help the pulling back of support in Scotland,his message as to policies, reaches many there.
Politics is unpredictable and odd most of the time,it could quite easily be his message is the one that stands out in 2020 and somehow gets the turnaround as to votes.

Full credit to him however, for opening up this leadership election and not making it one where everyone is careful of what they say or worse still being only a stage managed affair.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Undoubtedly, he has opened up the debate of this leadership election and also made it a real contest.

I get infuriated by other Labour party members who say he shouldn't win,he has every right to stand and win if the eligible party supporters deciding same vote for him.
I will probably not be voting for him because I really do not believe that he can reach the voters of the South particularly that Labour will need at least more of to win an election.

However, he could begin to help the pulling back of support in Scotland,his message as to policies, reaches many there.
Politics is unpredictable and odd most of the time,it could quite easily be his message is the one that stands out in 2020 and somehow gets the turnaround as to votes.

Full credit to him however, for opening up this leadership election and not making it one where everyone is careful of what they say or worse still being only a stage managed affair.

Yes at the last Election Cameron
went off script and started swearing
at the Miliband and Russel Brand.


It was great
thats what we need.

Jeremy is Tougher
than the 3 Tory Lites

[MTVN]

He has until midday to get the support of the 35 MPs he needs. I don't think he will, it's a big ask really and a rule that needs changing if they want more diversity in the candidates

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

He has until midday to get the support of the 35 MPs he needs. I don't think he will, it's a big ask really and a rule that needs changing if they want more diversity in the candidates

Yes Sadly True MTVN

[Kizzy]

Come on Labour

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Come on Labour

They do not want him, sadly

[MTVN]

[JoshBB]

I like him. Saw him speaking at an anti-trident protest I went to, and he spoke a lot of sense. Good public speaker too.

[Toy Soldier]

... ... ... ... OK, I'm just going to say it. The guy looks like Albert Steptoe. If Milliband wasn't marketable to the public then this would be an absolutely ridiculous idea, frankly.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

... ... ... ... OK, I'm just going to say it. The guy looks like Albert Steptoe. If Milliband wasn't marketable to the public then this would be an absolutely ridiculous idea, frankly.

[JoshBB]

Didn't think he'd manage.. congrats Jeremy!

[arista]

He got 35 votes


He is in the Race

[Kizzy]

good for him

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

good for him

Amazing the amount that came forward in the last 2 hours
this morning

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by arista

Amazing the amount that came forward in the last 2 hours
this morning

I think this could mean one of two things

1) Labour was telling people to nominate him so that the left-wing do not think Labour has moved to the right

2) The MPs wanted it to shock people and have a headline