[elliebrew]

Housemate nominations need to be scrapped.

Hand the entire vote over the public and leave it as a vote to save.

Nominations only allows the 'nice boring people' to remain safe for weeks on end.

The deadwood would be gone within a few weeks. The housemate wouldn't know who is popular or unpopular within the house and the dynamics of the house wouldn't be put in jeopardy.

When the eviction is announced don't call the names of the housemates out and allow them to hear the crowd reaction.

This often changes the way a housemate acts

[Black Dagger]

Yeah with the way nominations have been in recent years they may as well not bother. I have championed an all house up weekly vote to save for a bit. But then realise ghastly people would forever stay.

[Jack_]

Normal noms are largely boring and obviously don't happen much anymore so this would be fine by me. It's one of two options:

- A rolling vote to save across the series that doesn't restart (I think this would generate a lot of revenue), you could also have a leaderboard that's shown to the viewers but not to the housemates each week so as to increase competition between fans.

- Implement the US format, either with or without a few tweaks to give the public some influence

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Jack_

- Implement the US format, either with or without a few tweaks to give the public some influence

I would not mind this tbh

[Marsh.]

The show needs to be scrapped. I never thought it could sink lower than last year but the producers have managed it.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

The show needs to be scrapped. I never thought it could sink lower than last year but the producers have managed it.

And then what? What a stupid thing to say. You love a show yet you want to see it axed.

If it was axed you'd be calling for it to come back.

Or you could try and find a solution to help nurture it back to health

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

The show needs to be scrapped. I never thought it could sink lower than last year but the producers have managed it.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

The show needs to be scrapped. I never thought it could sink lower than last year but the producers have managed it.

I agree with this kind of, C5 has killed BB pretty much, I'm bored of moaning about what they do because they don't care about the fans so I know they wont listen to what people want.

[Lostie!]

Officially scrapping nominations would be the final push that makes me quit BBUK for good. Nominations have always been one of my favourite aspects of the show and the lack of proper nominations we get now is frustrating enough.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Officially scrapping nominations would be the final push that makes me quit BBUK for good. Nominations have always been one of my favourite aspects of the show and the lack of proper nominations we get now is frustrating enough.

Lost you're holding onto the past. You cannot keep something for nostalgia sake if it isn't working anymore.

The viewers have changed. The housemates have certainly changed.

Nominations ensure that the big characters in the house are often on the chopping block

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Lost you're holding onto the past. You cannot keep something for nostalgia sake if it isn't working anymore.

Nominations do work.

Nothing suggests they don't work when the producers have refused to even let the regular format play out for about 3 years.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Nominations do work.

Nothing suggests they don't work when the producers have refused to even let the regular format play out for about 3 years.

TBF whenever they rarely do a normal week the easy obvious targets always go and the bores and ass lickers stay in. HMs nowadays are to savvy to the process for it to work anymore.

Its been in steady decline as a concept since around BB6 when ever week the best HMs would be slowly removed leaving all the crap who dont do anything left at the end.

All HMs all up every week with vote to save would work so much better and do tasks maybe to win immunity.

In that system you wouldnt get power blocks forming, controversial but good HMs who the others hate wouldnt be up against nobodies in VTE every week ensuring they go... it wont happen though

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by RodHull

TBF whenever they rarely do a normal week the easy obvious targets always go and the bores and ass lickers stay in. HMs nowadays are to savvy to the process for it to work anymore.

Its been in steady decline as a concept since around BB6 when ever week the best HMs would be slowly removed leaving all the crap who dont do anything left at the end.

All HMs all up every week with vote to save would work so much better and do tasks maybe to win immunity.

In that system you wouldnt get power blocks forming, controversial but good HMs who the others hate wouldnt be up against nobodies in VTE every week ensuring they go... it wont happen though

I couldn't disagree more.

[minny03]

Originally Posted by RodHull

TBF whenever they rarely do a normal week the easy obvious targets always go and the bores and ass lickers stay in. HMs nowadays are to savvy to the process for it to work anymore.

Its been in steady decline as a concept since around BB6 when ever week the best HMs would be slowly removed leaving all the crap who dont do anything left at the end.

All HMs all up every week with vote to save would work so much better and do tasks maybe to win immunity.

In that system you wouldnt get power blocks forming, controversial but good HMs who the others hate wouldnt be up against nobodies in VTE every week ensuring they go... it wont happen though

I agree with this that everyone needs to be up for eviction and then have them do tasks so a few could win immunity. I really wish the producers would just change it once and for all and have the whole house up with a VTS. I find the regular nomination process so predictable and makes the show less exciting. It becomes obvious who is going to be nominated (the loud, argumentative, or annoying ones are always nominated before everyone else) and these big characters go home quite instantly. It is so damn safe and predictable.

And 9 times out of 10, the boring ones who sit in the background always escape from being nominated and even if they are up for eviction, they end up staying because people don't want to spend their money to get rid of a drab person. That is why the boring people stay there until the end. Come to think of it, its actually a smart strategy. If you want to win Big Brother, barely speak up, stand in the background, and watch everyone else argue.

This is why people like Rachel Rice from BB9 can outlast everyone. Why do people want that to continue to happen? I get that someone like her had fans, but what kind of show would it be if the house was filled with personalities like hers? It would be so uninteresting to watch.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Lost you're holding onto the past. You cannot keep something for nostalgia sake if it isn't working anymore.

The viewers have changed. The housemates have certainly changed.

Nominations ensure that the big characters in the house are often on the chopping block

Expecting the show to retain one of it's fundamental aspects is "holding on to the past"? I'm (attempting to at least) holding on to whatever might remain of Big Brother, and that's not much anymore.

And if I am holding on to the past, it's because BB of the past was immeasurably better IMO.

As I said, the nominations interference nowadays is bad enough. Scrapping the nominations format completely would absolutely be the final nail in this show's coffin for me.

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I thought "reverse noms" might be interesting, where the whole house is always up for the public vote, and then the HMs decide which of the two with the most should leave on Friday.

BBAU did that for the first half of one of it's series, but I can't say it's something I'd love personally.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Expecting the show to retain one of it's fundamental aspects is "holding on to the past"? I'm (attempting to at least) holding on to whatever might remain of Big Brother, and that's not much anymore.

And if I am holding on to the past, it's because BB of the past was immeasurably better IMO.

Why must BB be a set format in your brain.

Why aren't you open to the possibility of it adapting and changing to suit its current audience.

Simply forcing the same tired format on a new audience only serves to beat it into the ground further.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Why must BB be a set format in your brain.

Why aren't you open to the possibility of it adapting and changing to suit its current audience.

Simply forcing the same tired format on a new audience only serves to beat it into the ground further.

It's already changed in almost every aspect.

The format has evolved over the time but changing absolutely everything about it makes it not BB anymore.

That's fairly obvious to anyone with common sense.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Why must BB be a set format in your brain.

Why aren't you open to the possibility of it adapting and changing to suit its current audience.

Simply forcing the same tired format on a new audience only serves to beat it into the ground further.

You're asking me why I'm not open to it adapting in a way that I wouldn't personally find enjoyable? I think your answer is right there.

It sounds like yourself and this "new audience" don't want Big Brother at all, you want a whole other show merely using it's name.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Why must BB be a set format in your brain.

Why aren't you open to the possibility of it adapting and changing to suit its current audience.

Simply forcing the same tired format on a new audience only serves to beat it into the ground further.

It has changed and look at the ****e it has become recently.

Viewing figures tell a tale.

[minny03]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Why must BB be a set format in your brain.

Why aren't you open to the possibility of it adapting and changing to suit its current audience.

Simply forcing the same tired format on a new audience only serves to beat it into the ground further.

Exactly. And consider the fact that if you look at some of the most long-running, successful reality shows on television, most of them have changed in some type of way because the producers on other shows have realized the importance of keeping a show fresh, new, and exciting for the viewers. It is extremely boring to just keep everything the same.

It blows my mind that most people still want head to head evictions, with only two people up and a VTE. Yes, that format may have somewhat worked years ago, but it does not work well in this current landscape. Many big characters go up for eviction way too early and then get evicted just because they have personality or are opinionated. That really needs to stop happening. VTS with the whole house up will ensure big characters will survive and there would be less producer manipulation.

[REDCROP]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Officially scrapping nominations would be the final push that makes me quit BBUK for good. Nominations have always been one of my favourite aspects of the show and the lack of proper nominations we get now is frustrating enough.

I Agree....its not nominations that are the problem, its the recruitment process before the show begins.....can they not find people with a brain..or a sense of humour who want to go in there ?

How did some of this years lot convince BB that they were interesting in their interviews.....i thought BB employed trained psychologists to do the job...A blind man on a galloping horse could see that these people are just not interesting.

If you were given a new job that payed 150 grand and you arrived for work and just did nothing how long would you last ? They are just lazy and should be embarrassed when they come out

[Oliver_W]

I thought "reverse noms" might be interesting, where the whole house is always up for the public vote, and then the HMs decide which of the two with the most should leave on Friday.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I thought "reverse noms" might be interesting, where the whole house is always up for the public vote, and then the HMs decide which of the two with the most should leave on Friday.

Now that I'm up for as well, so long as it's a vote to save and they vote amongst the two with the fewest votes.

In fact, that'd be pretty hilarious because most of the time they'd have to evict someone they all love and get on with cause they're nice and we get rid of dullards in the process <333

[Liam-]

Scrapping the nomination process is a ghastly prospect.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Scrapping the nomination process is a ghastly prospect.

Absolutely disagree

Tell me what they offer the house? really?