[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Lost you're holding onto the past. You cannot keep something for nostalgia sake if it isn't working anymore.

The viewers have changed. The housemates have certainly changed.

Nominations ensure that the big characters in the house are often on the chopping block

Expecting the show to retain one of it's fundamental aspects is "holding on to the past"? I'm (attempting to at least) holding on to whatever might remain of Big Brother, and that's not much anymore.

And if I am holding on to the past, it's because BB of the past was immeasurably better IMO.

As I said, the nominations interference nowadays is bad enough. Scrapping the nominations format completely would absolutely be the final nail in this show's coffin for me.

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I thought "reverse noms" might be interesting, where the whole house is always up for the public vote, and then the HMs decide which of the two with the most should leave on Friday.

BBAU did that for the first half of one of it's series, but I can't say it's something I'd love personally.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Expecting the show to retain one of it's fundamental aspects is "holding on to the past"? I'm (attempting to at least) holding on to whatever might remain of Big Brother, and that's not much anymore.

And if I am holding on to the past, it's because BB of the past was immeasurably better IMO.

Why must BB be a set format in your brain.

Why aren't you open to the possibility of it adapting and changing to suit its current audience.

Simply forcing the same tired format on a new audience only serves to beat it into the ground further.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Why must BB be a set format in your brain.

Why aren't you open to the possibility of it adapting and changing to suit its current audience.

Simply forcing the same tired format on a new audience only serves to beat it into the ground further.

It's already changed in almost every aspect.

The format has evolved over the time but changing absolutely everything about it makes it not BB anymore.

That's fairly obvious to anyone with common sense.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Why must BB be a set format in your brain.

Why aren't you open to the possibility of it adapting and changing to suit its current audience.

Simply forcing the same tired format on a new audience only serves to beat it into the ground further.

You're asking me why I'm not open to it adapting in a way that I wouldn't personally find enjoyable? I think your answer is right there.

It sounds like yourself and this "new audience" don't want Big Brother at all, you want a whole other show merely using it's name.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

You're asking me why I'm not open to it adapting in a way that I wouldn't personally find enjoyable? I think your answer is right there.

It sounds like yourself and this "new audience" don't want Big Brother at all, you want a whole other show merely using it's name.

Yeah, and the "new audience" it's currently adapting to obviously don't want it either as the viewing figures disappear down the drain.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

You're asking me why I'm not open to it adapting in a way that I wouldn't personally find enjoyable? I think your answer is right there.

It sounds like yourself and this "new audience" don't want Big Brother at all, you want a whole other show merely using it's name.

Darn you for having a differing opinion, how stupid can you get mun

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Darn you for having a differing opinion, how stupid can you get mun

Every single time i post you always try and be facetious about me disliking other peoples opinions.

I get it

you can stop trying to be funny now

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

you always try and be facetious

Carole BB8 is that you?

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

You're asking me why I'm not open to it adapting in a way that I wouldn't personally find enjoyable? I think your answer is right there.

It sounds like yourself and this "new audience" don't want Big Brother at all, you want a whole other show merely using it's name.

I want a format that allows storylines to play out naturally. Relationships to form naturally

Scrapping the threat of being nominated by having the entire house up liberates the housemates and allows stories to progress without Gameplay.

SURELY its the very basis of the BB experience and something you should be championing

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

I want a format that allows storylines to play out naturally. Relationships to form naturally

Scrapping the threat of being nominated by having the entire house up liberates the housemates and allows stories to progress without Gameplay.

SURELY its the very basis of the BB experience and something you should be championing

Nominations doesn't hinder the natural progression of storylines, constant interference does. I want the show to go back to having a regular, consistent nomination format without the producers trying to out-twist themselves week after week.

If certain housemates decide to use their nominations on a strategic level, so be it. I don't see how that would be hindering story progression, a housemate playing a strategic game is a storyline itself.

The fundamental aspect of Big Brother is the social experiment, putting together different people and seeing what happens. Nominations (where we truly get to see how people are reacting to one another) is a big part of this. Stripping that aspect wouldn't be amplifying the core aspect of the BB experience, it would be draining from it.

I just want the series to play out naturally. Housemates nominate, public evict, and repeat. And if they feel the need to add a twist one week (because a completely twist-free BB is definitely too much to ask for now), so be it.

I understand what you're saying and why you feel that way, but it's not something I'd like. Although, your suggestion may actually be preferable to the current state of nominations.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Why must BB be a set format in your brain.

Why aren't you open to the possibility of it adapting and changing to suit its current audience.

Simply forcing the same tired format on a new audience only serves to beat it into the ground further.

It has changed and look at the ****e it has become recently.

Viewing figures tell a tale.

[minny03]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Why must BB be a set format in your brain.

Why aren't you open to the possibility of it adapting and changing to suit its current audience.

Simply forcing the same tired format on a new audience only serves to beat it into the ground further.

Exactly. And consider the fact that if you look at some of the most long-running, successful reality shows on television, most of them have changed in some type of way because the producers on other shows have realized the importance of keeping a show fresh, new, and exciting for the viewers. It is extremely boring to just keep everything the same.

It blows my mind that most people still want head to head evictions, with only two people up and a VTE. Yes, that format may have somewhat worked years ago, but it does not work well in this current landscape. Many big characters go up for eviction way too early and then get evicted just because they have personality or are opinionated. That really needs to stop happening. VTS with the whole house up will ensure big characters will survive and there would be less producer manipulation.