[the truth]

what do you think of that? are you offended or disappointed or do you support him not singing it?

I happen to think its the worst anthem in the world. Ive never sung it. but give me Jerusalem, land of hope and glory , abide by me, heck even never walk alone and im in floods of tears

our English anthem should be one of these classics not a monotonous mega boring homage to an evil institution that represents nothing but war, theft , rape and pillage
your thoughts?

[armand.kay]

Yeah our national anthem is kind of lame and doesn't really say anything about the country and its people.

[lostalex]

i prefer the "my country tis of thee" version. it's not a horrible tune. My country tis of thee is all about how the land belongs to all people, and we all have a beautiful land to claim, instead of just worshipping 1 unelected person. it's just the lyrics that ruin it. it makes you sound like a sycophant singing a song in unison to worship one person who did nothing of value deserving of being worshipped. It's more like a hymn.

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[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i prefer the "my country tis of thee" version. it's not a horrible tune. My country tis of thee is all about how the land belongs to all people, and we all have a beautiful land to claim, instead of just worshipping 1 unelected person. it's just the lyrics that ruin it. it makes you sound like a sycophant singing a song in unison to worship one person who did nothing of value deserving of being worshipped. It's more like a hymn.

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100% agree

[Scarlett.]

I don't give a damn, as long as he's a better leader than Millibland was

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Chewy

I don't give a damn, as long as he's a better leader than Millibland was

yes but what do you think of God save the queen?

[Scarlett.]

Its just a song, lol.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Chewy

Its just a song, lol.

way to avoid the question? do you like it , do you sing it?

[Black Dagger]

It's ****ing dirge and I don't blame him x

[Mystic Mock]

It doesn't bother me personally, his history bugs me more.

But I do sense that a lot of the general public will not like this move.

[bots]

The national anthem is not just a song. The national anthem is a celebration of the nation, a symbol of unity. For him to refuse to sing the anthem means he doesn't believe in the nation.

Corbyn is quite frankly a complete ass hole.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The national anthem is not just a song. The national anthem is a celebration of the nation, a symbol of unity. For him to refuse to sing the anthem means he doesn't believe in the nation.

Corbyn is quite frankly a complete ass hole.

what a joke it doesn't represent anything? its a song about 1 person on throne, its embarassing

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

what a joke it doesn't represent anything? its a song about 1 person on throne, its embarassing

I agree actually.

It is not a song about the Nation at all, it rarely gets sung past the first verse anyway,(thank all powers that be for that too), and all it goes on about is seeing the highly privileged individual who happenes to be the Monarch, ''victorious, happy and glorious,long to reign over us''.
For goodness sake that is ridiculous.

The very first word of it,God, sadly I think, means very little to a great number now across the Nations of the UK too.

It is awful, really awful and although I will sing it sometimes, most times I just hum the tune,since I actually find this personalised further glorification in song of one person nauseating at best.
To actually term it a National anthem, is beyond belief in this day and age in the UK now,with the make up of all the citizens of the UK too.

Get rid I say and no one should have to sing it if they do not want to.
I'd have rather hummmed along to something like the Dambusters at this event than this depressing anthem.

[Jack_]

I'm no royalist (or republican either) but I actually quite like the song and I will and have sung it

However, I understand why some might not like it and anybody is free to choose not to sing it if they so wish, that's their prerogative.

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The national anthem is not just a song. The national anthem is a celebration of the nation, a symbol of unity. For him to refuse to sing the anthem means he doesn't believe in the nation.

Corbyn is quite frankly a complete ass hole.

No, it means he doesn't believe in the monarchy, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that

[Northern Monkey]

Our country was built on monarchy.If he is ashamed of that fact then he really should feck off to somewhere he is not so ashamed of.Imo.

[lewis111]

I think he should've just sang it like what you gaining from not sining it tryna develop this edgy look. but yeah it's a awful song could do with a ncki minaj verse in the middle

[kirklancaster]

He is a fekcing disgrace - and a treasonous disgrace at that.

His own excuse that he was; "Remaining silent out of respect to the fallen" during the singing of our National Anthem is B.S. Everyone else there remained silent at the appropriate time but sang our National Anthem when protocol demanded it.

He publicly mourned the death of Osama Bin Laden but disgraces a memorial service to OUR fallen heroes.

He will prove to be the final nail in the coffin of the Labour Party - what was once a respectable and respected genuine party.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

He is a fekcing disgrace - and a treasonous disgrace at that.

His own excuse that he was; "Remaining silent out of respect to the fallen" during the singing of our National Anthem is B.S. Everyone else there remained silent at the appropriate time but sang our National Anthem when protocol demanded it.

He publicly mourned the death of Osama Bin Laden but disgraces a memorial service to OUR fallen heroes.

He will prove to be the final nail in the coffin of the Labour Party - what was once a respectable and respected genuine party.

Yep and you have to wonder exactly which fallen it is he's 'paying respect' to by refusing to sing our national anthem.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Yep and you have to wonder exactly which fallen it is he's 'paying respect' to by refusing to sing our national anthem.

I have to wonder how it's respectful to fallen soldiers to sing a song celebrating the filthy system that took them to war in the first place.

God save the Queen
Send her victorious
Never mind the cannon-fodder who died in her name
and in the name of Kings and Queens before her,
Long to reign over us
God save the Queen

Is that not how it goes?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I have to wonder how it's respectful to fallen soldiers to sing a song celebrating the filthy system that took them to war in the first place.

God save the Queen
Send her victorious
Never mind the cannon-fodder who died in her name
and in the name of Kings and Queens before her,
Long to reign over us
God save the Queen

Is that not how it goes?

Why don't you just MOVE countries T.S.?

If it wasn't for all the 'Cannon Fodder' who "died in her name" you would not be at liberty right now to post your views.

The Queen is a FIGUREHEAD. She PERSONALLY does not send anyone anywhere.

Our poor servicemen and women are risking their lives as I write, to STOP the evil, inhuman scum which is IS and other terrorist killers from subjugating the entire world, and without their heroism, courage and sacrifice these barbaric bastards would be infinitely closer to parading down The Mall displaying severed heads by the hundred.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I have to wonder how it's respectful to fallen soldiers to sing a song celebrating the filthy system that took them to war in the first place.

God save the Queen
Send her victorious
Never mind the cannon-fodder who died in her name
and in the name of Kings and Queens before her,
Long to reign over us
God save the Queen

Is that not how it goes?

Wether he agrees with the monarchy or not is irrellevant.The national anthem was part of the ceremony paying respects to British fallen soldiers.He has offended many veterens who are still alive today.
If i go to a funeral i join in with the prayers and hymns out of respect for the person who's funeral it is even though i'm not religious.
Not just that but he is there in his proffessional capacity as leader of the labour party and was representing his party.I would bet the majority if not all of the rest of the Labour party would have sung the anthem to show their respect.He has not represented the views of his party just his own personal vendetta against the queen and possibly country while insulting our veterans.

[smudgie]

I personally don't mind it, quite like it in fact.
I do think it is down to personal choice, however when I see footballers etc not singing it when representing their country I find it a bit weird.
Jeremy not singing it was his choice, but I doubt it will have done him any favours, isn't it something like 80% of the people support the Royalty

[Crimson Dynamo]

He does not believe in a monarchy so its no surprise that he did not sing it - had he sung it..now that would be a story

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

He does not believe in a monarchy so its no surprise that he did not sing it - had he sung it..now that would be a story

Yeah - thinking about it, perhaps it WOULD have deen more honest and forthright of him had he chanted or sang; "Allahu Akbar".

[user104658]

I'll just copy and paste most of this from the other thread ;

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You can love this country and believe it shouldn't have a monarchy. No, more than that, you can believe that the monarchy should be dismantled BECAUSE you love this country. He's not refusing to sing the song because it's the national anthem, he's refusing to sing it for the same reason that I wouldn't sing it: because he doesn't want to sing a song of worship for a bunch of elitist, murderous villains.

It's a political catch 22... A monarchy monopoly. Essentially it's saying that you can't be properly engaged in UK politics if you refuse to acknowledge the monarchy as a valid political system. And so if you believe there shouldn't be one? Tough. Because then you're not a proper politician and so will never be in a position to try to change it. No. It's 2015 and major political factions should be able to (and just SHOULD, in my opinion) openly reject the monarchy.

I mean just look at the national anthem if you want to know why I will never sing it. It's about precisely three things. Elitism, War-mongering, and a fictional man in the sky. Not for me, thanks, not any of it. I get that some people love the cuddly old Queen, are "proud" of our country's history as bloodthirsty conquerors, and believe in said men in the sky... And that's fine... But kindly don't force your prayers upon others with the caveat that they're "treasonous" or "anti-patriotic" if they won't comply.

If all statesmen must fall in line with protocol - legitimising the monarchy - then how does one make a (meaningful) political stand against that monarchy?

I for one have had enough of cardboard cut-out politicians playing along with these outdated charades.

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